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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
there's no power!
open source
anarchy
people build whatever
people use whatever
whatever happens, happens
no chain of command, no network of obligations
and you continue to insist you have a position to stand on that says "somebody owes me"
they don't owe you shit. no one owes me shit. no one owes anyone shit
no one can tell you what to do. no one can tell me what to do
please understand where you are
dude, wake up
nobody owes you or me
but they have interests in us
so we have leverage
it's stupid to not use it to keep this network that we like healthier, if the developers don't care about the network, but care about getting users
please understand where you are, as you say
or remain stubborn and miss opportunities to actually defend what you evidently enjoy
CC: @oblomov@sociale.network @Jirikiha@raphus.social @macacator@mastodon.social @MyWoolyMastadon@toot.community @john@vyrse.social @engel@mastodon.social @everton137@vivaldi.net
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
you don't have a problem with me oblomov
you have a problem with reality
you reject reality, not me
you're shooting the messenger
if it makes you feel better, shoot away, i don't care
reality doesn't change though
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
I strive for a better world rather than reveling in its shit.
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dude, wake up
nobody owes you or me
but they have interests in us
so we have leverage
it's stupid to not use it to keep this network that we like healthier, if the developers don't care about the network, but care about getting users
please understand where you are, as you say
or remain stubborn and miss opportunities to actually defend what you evidently enjoy
CC: @oblomov@sociale.network @Jirikiha@raphus.social @macacator@mastodon.social @MyWoolyMastadon@toot.community @john@vyrse.social @engel@mastodon.social @everton137@vivaldi.net@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
alexandre:
enjoy advocating for interop with a dead protocol
killed by tech improvement for better features
no sorry, killed just because mastodon is unrelenting evil
go for it
you have massive leverage, and a completely airtight rationale for doing so
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
alexandre:
enjoy advocating for interop with a dead protocol
killed by tech improvement for better features
no sorry, killed just because mastodon is unrelenting evil
go for it
you have massive leverage, and a completely airtight rationale for doing so
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
I like how you completely missed the point and keep focusing on the ostatus thing because that's really the only thing you can do in this discussion.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
I strive for a better world rather than reveling in its shit.
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
well articulate a coherent means to do so, rather than just gnashing your teeth in frustration that it is shit
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
well articulate a coherent means to do so, rather than just gnashing your teeth in frustration that it is shit
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
it has been done, and you keep focusing on that, so that's enough time wasted on that.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
it has been done, and you keep focusing on that, so that's enough time wasted on that.
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
oblomov, this entire thread is a farce
i'm arguing with two people who think they have leverage they do not. for purposes that can only be fulfilled in a hierarchy that does not exist
and for pointing out the obvious, i'm apparently a google goon and a libertarian moron
🤣
pure farce
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
oblomov, this entire thread is a farce
i'm arguing with two people who think they have leverage they do not. for purposes that can only be fulfilled in a hierarchy that does not exist
and for pointing out the obvious, i'm apparently a google goon and a libertarian moron
🤣
pure farce
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
on the contrary, it has been very illuminating on your preference to accept and defend abusive and toxic behavior. It's not every day that I get to add a note to a user profile.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
on the contrary, it has been very illuminating on your preference to accept and defend abusive and toxic behavior. It's not every day that I get to add a note to a user profile.
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
this is like saying "you defend drunk driving merely because you accept drunk drivers exist"
i accept the reality in a flat nonhierarchy that mastodon can do whatever it wants, therefore i am defending everything mastodon does?
🤣
think whatever you want oblomov. if you need to smear me with intentions i don't have and statements i never made, go for it
we all need to cope
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
this is like saying "you defend drunk driving merely because you accept drunk drivers exist"
i accept the reality in a flat nonhierarchy that mastodon can do whatever it wants, therefore i am defending everything mastodon does?
🤣
think whatever you want oblomov. if you need to smear me with intentions i don't have and statements i never made, go for it
we all need to cope
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
When people point out that drunk driving leads to loss of life, there's two ways to respond:
«true, and that's bad, mayb we should do something to minimize drunk driving and its negative effect» is one
«that's life, there's nothing you can do to eliminate drunk driving so better live with it» is the other
You chose one, we chose the other. That tells more about us than it does about drunk driving indeed.
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
alexandre:
enjoy advocating for interop with a dead protocol
killed by tech improvement for better features
no sorry, killed just because mastodon is unrelenting evil
go for it
you have massive leverage, and a completely airtight rationale for doing so
you're missing the point. I wonder if you're that dense, or just playing it
I'm not advocating for an old but functional protocol. that was a fscking example of a jerk anti-competitive anti-interop move from a time when the protocol was still in very active use.
removing it didn't bring any better features, and claiming that it did makes you sound clueless
I by myself have very little leverage. we collectively could have a lot, if there weren't anti-leverage jerk defenders among us.
solidarity is valuable where I come from
you know what we say about citizens or workers who fight against their own rights?
it applies to netizens as well
CC: @oblomov@sociale.network @Jirikiha@raphus.social @macacator@mastodon.social @MyWoolyMastadon@toot.community @john@vyrse.social @engel@mastodon.social @everton137@vivaldi.net
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
When people point out that drunk driving leads to loss of life, there's two ways to respond:
«true, and that's bad, mayb we should do something to minimize drunk driving and its negative effect» is one
«that's life, there's nothing you can do to eliminate drunk driving so better live with it» is the other
You chose one, we chose the other. That tells more about us than it does about drunk driving indeed.
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
more like i'm arguing with
"we stop drunk drivers by demanding they stop drinking, that will work. i have magical leverage over their behavior"
and now you understand the real contrast in arguments here
of course the real world solution to drunk drivers is punishment. in a system
and there's no system here
and now i get called immoral for pointing out reality
shoot that messenger oblomov! shoot him!
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
more like i'm arguing with
"we stop drunk drivers by demanding they stop drinking, that will work. i have magical leverage over their behavior"
and now you understand the real contrast in arguments here
of course the real world solution to drunk drivers is punishment. in a system
and there's no system here
and now i get called immoral for pointing out reality
shoot that messenger oblomov! shoot him!
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
thanks for confirming you're saying what I said you were saying, and that you didn't understand our argument.
BTW, «there's nothing we can do to change things, so we should stop thinking about how to change things» is bullshit. It's an excuse, and an exigology
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you're missing the point. I wonder if you're that dense, or just playing it
I'm not advocating for an old but functional protocol. that was a fscking example of a jerk anti-competitive anti-interop move from a time when the protocol was still in very active use.
removing it didn't bring any better features, and claiming that it did makes you sound clueless
I by myself have very little leverage. we collectively could have a lot, if there weren't anti-leverage jerk defenders among us.
solidarity is valuable where I come from
you know what we say about citizens or workers who fight against their own rights?
it applies to netizens as well
CC: @oblomov@sociale.network @Jirikiha@raphus.social @macacator@mastodon.social @MyWoolyMastadon@toot.community @john@vyrse.social @engel@mastodon.social @everton137@vivaldi.net@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub
read the second paragraph ^^^
"removing it didn't bring any better features" is just a straight up lie
you insist mastodon abandoned ostatus because cackling moustache twirling evil
when all they did was implement new features
alexandre you're losing credibility
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
thanks for confirming you're saying what I said you were saying, and that you didn't understand our argument.
BTW, «there's nothing we can do to change things, so we should stop thinking about how to change things» is bullshit. It's an excuse, and an exigology
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
you absolutely should change things
stop lying about who i am and what i am saying, and go change them!
but i think you'll find your efforts are in vain if you don't even understand the environment you are in
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
you absolutely should change things
stop lying about who i am and what i am saying, and go change them!
but i think you'll find your efforts are in vain if you don't even understand the environment you are in
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
oh good, I was missing deflection and projection from the note, thanks.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
oh good, I was missing deflection and projection from the note, thanks.
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
right, because i'm calling you names. not like you're calling me names because you don't like what i'm telling you. of course. got it
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
right, because i'm calling you names. not like you're calling me names because you don't like what i'm telling you. of course. got it
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
again, if you don't like the implications of what you say, that's not my problem, and pointing that out is not name calling.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
again, if you don't like the implications of what you say, that's not my problem, and pointing that out is not name calling.
@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
oblomov: whatever you need to cope in this world, go for it. we all have frustrations. if you need to think i'm terrible things because you reject what i say about the topic, that has nothing to do with your smears, do what you have to do. i understand it's difficult for you
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@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
oblomov: whatever you need to cope in this world, go for it. we all have frustrations. if you need to think i'm terrible things because you reject what i say about the topic, that has nothing to do with your smears, do what you have to do. i understand it's difficult for you
@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
LOL
Nice try, but again, projecting won't help.
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@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
and still you insist on ignoring the point, which is that they could have kept OStatus support and only use the improvements for AP only. They could, they chose not to.
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@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137
Yes mastodon introduced incompatibilities with ostatus
They're called IMPROVEMENTS you doorknob
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@tommi I was going to ask, so thanks for clarifying.
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@coolcalmcollected @jill explanation here via @FediTips : https://social.growyourown.services/@FediTips/111970788381411391
TL;DR: the admin(s) of instances can upload custom emojis - I have a bunch of them on my self-hosted GoToSocial
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funny how this excuse doesn't work for other incompatibilities mastodon introduced, no?
dunning-kruger indeed
you think they're lazy, incompetent, or malicious?
hint: can't be lazy because removing ostatus took plenty of work
hint: can't be incompetent because it largely works
hmm...
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