@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

I strive for a better world rather than reveling in its shit.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

alexandre:

enjoy advocating for interop with a dead protocol

killed by tech improvement for better features

no sorry, killed just because mastodon is unrelenting evil

go for it

you have massive leverage, and a completely airtight rationale for doing so

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

I like how you completely missed the point and keep focusing on the ostatus thing because that's really the only thing you can do in this discussion.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

well articulate a coherent means to do so, rather than just gnashing your teeth in frustration that it is shit

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

it has been done, and you keep focusing on that, so that's enough time wasted on that.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

oblomov, this entire thread is a farce

i'm arguing with two people who think they have leverage they do not. for purposes that can only be fulfilled in a hierarchy that does not exist

and for pointing out the obvious, i'm apparently a google goon and a libertarian moron

🤣

pure farce

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

on the contrary, it has been very illuminating on your preference to accept and defend abusive and toxic behavior. It's not every day that I get to add a note to a user profile.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

this is like saying "you defend drunk driving merely because you accept drunk drivers exist"

i accept the reality in a flat nonhierarchy that mastodon can do whatever it wants, therefore i am defending everything mastodon does?

🤣

think whatever you want oblomov. if you need to smear me with intentions i don't have and statements i never made, go for it

we all need to cope

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

When people point out that drunk driving leads to loss of life, there's two ways to respond:

«true, and that's bad, mayb we should do something to minimize drunk driving and its negative effect» is one

«that's life, there's nothing you can do to eliminate drunk driving so better live with it» is the other

You chose one, we chose the other. That tells more about us than it does about drunk driving indeed.

[lxo@snac.lx.oliva.nom.br]

you're missing the point. I wonder if you're that dense, or just playing it

I'm not advocating for an old but functional protocol. that was a fscking example of a jerk anti-competitive anti-interop move from a time when the protocol was still in very active use.

removing it didn't bring any better features, and claiming that it did makes you sound clueless

I by myself have very little leverage. we collectively could have a lot, if there weren't anti-leverage jerk defenders among us.

solidarity is valuable where I come from

you know what we say about citizens or workers who fight against their own rights?

it applies to netizens as well

CC: @oblomov@sociale.network @Jirikiha@raphus.social @macacator@mastodon.social @MyWoolyMastadon@toot.community @john@vyrse.social @engel@mastodon.social @everton137@vivaldi.net

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

more like i'm arguing with

"we stop drunk drivers by demanding they stop drinking, that will work. i have magical leverage over their behavior"

and now you understand the real contrast in arguments here

of course the real world solution to drunk drivers is punishment. in a system

and there's no system here

and now i get called immoral for pointing out reality

shoot that messenger oblomov! shoot him!

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

thanks for confirming you're saying what I said you were saying, and that you didn't understand our argument.

BTW, «there's nothing we can do to change things, so we should stop thinking about how to change things» is bullshit. It's an excuse, and an exigology

https://www.smbc-comics.com/?id=2461

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@lxo @oblomov @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ActivityPub

read the second paragraph ^^^

"removing it didn't bring any better features" is just a straight up lie

you insist mastodon abandoned ostatus because cackling moustache twirling evil

when all they did was implement new features

alexandre you're losing credibility

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

you absolutely should change things

stop lying about who i am and what i am saying, and go change them!

but i think you'll find your efforts are in vain if you don't even understand the environment you are in

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

oh good, I was missing deflection and projection from the note, thanks.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

right, because i'm calling you names. not like you're calling me names because you don't like what i'm telling you. of course. got it

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

again, if you don't like the implications of what you say, that's not my problem, and pointing that out is not name calling.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

oblomov: whatever you need to cope in this world, go for it. we all have frustrations. if you need to think i'm terrible things because you reject what i say about the topic, that has nothing to do with your smears, do what you have to do. i understand it's difficult for you

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@benroyce @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

LOL

Nice try, but again, projecting won't help.

[benroyce@mastodon.social]

@oblomov @lxo @Jirikiha @macacator @MyWoolyMastadon @john @engel @everton137

do you understand what projection is?

good god man