Augmented Reality filters are coming to the fediverse, first with Loops and soon Pixelfed!

[dansup@mastodon.social]

@jwz haha, I'll see what I can do!

[moellus@wandzeitung.xyz]

@jwz @dansup TIL jwz.org

[cenbe@techhub.social]

@dansup Brilliant use of programmers' time. The really important stuff.

[ashmeshedup@mastodon.social]

@Cenbe @dansup well, it is.
As a part of the NLnet foundation grant for Loops, work on AR filters is a milestone to be reached by March (I think it's March). So I'd say that's pretty important.

And it's just a fun feature. Fun features that users will like are definitely a good use of the developers time (even apart from being required by the grant), wouldn't you say?

[moralapostel@troet.cafe]

@dansup Uninformed people all over the world may like to vote for fascists. Should we do it anyway?
Yes, it's a bad comparison. But in my opinion, it illustrates well why you shouldn't do everything that people like.
@kdekooter

[anatolegc@piaille.fr]

@moralapostel @dansup @kdekooter Are AR filters harmful by any mean (directly or not)? This is a real question

[moralapostel@troet.cafe]

@anatolegc Yes, in my opinion it does. It copies "trends" from addictive platforms. The Fediverse should strictly refuse to do this. What comes next? An algorithm?
@dansup @kdekooter

[dansup@mastodon.social]

@moralapostel @anatolegc @kdekooter How is an AR filter harmful, when you don't need to even finish uploading the video to Loops, you can literally record a video then save it and share it to a specific person outside of Loops.

It's not that different from editing a photo and sharing it. That happens a lot. Where is the harm?

[moralapostel@troet.cafe]

@dansup Why should we engage in the same nonsense as on the platforms we wish to leave behind?
@anatolegc @kdekooter

[kdekooter@mastodon.social]

@dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc I'm with @moralapostel here. Besides the feature being stupid, childish and tasteless we as fediverse should refrain from pyschological tricks.

[dansup@mastodon.social]

@moralapostel @anatolegc @kdekooter Powerful and popular features shouldn't be proprietary.

They should belong to the people.

You might not use them, does that mean nobody should too? Even if we build an ethical implementation?

[moralapostel@troet.cafe]

Thanks s lot @kdekooter
Your explanation hits the nail on the head.

@dansup @anatolegc

[dansup@mastodon.social]

@kdekooter @moralapostel @anatolegc what tricks??

There is literally no difference if you edit a photo to add a filter or overlay text/stickers.

I really don't understand why you are calling this stupid and childish, its just a fun feature, and one that isn't required.

[rlraymond@mstdn.ca]

@dansup Nope. Unnecessary and counter to original mission. Just my $.02

[kdekooter@mastodon.social]

@dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc Just stating my aesthetical opinion.

[fwtl@mastodon.social]

@kdekooter @dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc how reactionnary of you

[dansup@mastodon.social]

@kdekooter @moralapostel @anatolegc I respect that, but can you not see the comparisons to editing a photo before uploading it?

This is just a fun way to add some flair to your video, we only have a few filters like sunglasses and dog ears, I don't see the harm in that.

[chad@mstdn.ca]

@dansup @kdekooter @moralapostel @anatolegc

AR =/= AI. We've had AR filters as long as Snapchat has existed and it was always done on-device. Without that goofy dog filter I probably wouldn't be with my partner of seven years. Those were simpler times.

[moralapostel@troet.cafe]

@dansup Well, it's an opinion that I'm expressing here. No more, no less. I may have a different aesthetic sensibility, and I also think that trying to copy addictive platforms is not the right way to go. That's how one thing will lead to another in the future... that's my concern.
@kdekooter @anatolegc

[fathermcgruder@jorts.horse]

@kdekooter @dansup @moralapostel @anatolegc Viewers should have a toggle to enable or disable AR effects on each video. We need to fight trickery and combat disinformation. Insta-bans for anyone trying to hide their acne!