Don't use Fedora Linux https://mastodon.social/@gamingonlinux/115422841053394776

[mcc@mastodon.social]

@Canageek My experience is that ubuntu has gone through a significant quality drop. I switched from ubuntu to debian and many strange problems on my laptop went away. I have not used kubuntu in some time so I don't know if they fix any of Ubuntu's problems, and I do not use KDE so I cannot help you here.

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@whitequark @mcc the policy has been set in place because RedHat employees (the corporate hand up Fedora's) now have a KPI based on their AI usage

https://blogs.gnome.org/chergert/2025/10/03/mi2-glib/

h/t @dotstdy and @davidgerard

https://mastodon.social/@dotstdy/115343603205954830
https://circumstances.run/@davidgerard/115343584016809960

[oblomov@sociale.network]

@Canageek @mcc

I've gone KDE Neon for my mom's laptop. It's Ubuntu-based and tuned by the KDE team itself.

https://neon.kde.org/

I don't know how much it has been following Ubuntu's snap-enshittification though, so I'm not sure the latest version is as good.

[slembcke@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@sauc3 @mcc One that doesn’t use Mesa either if that’s your threshold I guess.

I mean I’m not a fan of this either but babies w/ bath water and all.

[mcc@mastodon.social]

@slembcke @sauc3 The reason I am using Linux is to get away from "AI". If Linux is infected with "AI", then there is no reason for me to use it.

[sauc3@hachyderm.io]

@mcc @slembcke

So I guess my question is twofold.

Are all Linux distributions infected with "AI"? If not, which ones are safe to migrate to?

It doesn't have to be Linux either, it could be a Unix flavor like BSD, if that is an option. I, too, want to get as far away from "AI" as possible.

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@sauc3 @mcc @slembcke if this is the news I think we're talking about, the Fedora project leadership voted to allow "ai" generated contributions provided that substantial uses of it are labeled accordingly. This would mean that software that is developed and maintained by the Fedora project may have "ai" generated code in it soon, but that does not necessarily mean that other Linux distributions are "infected". It also does not necessarily mean that other Linux distributions are not "infected"

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@sauc3 @mcc @slembcke there's also (hopefully) a difference between allowing "ai" contributions so long as they bear the mark of shame, vs a CEO mandating that all employees hook up the bullshit machine to their golden goose to foie gras it with entropy as fast as humanly possible

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@sauc3 @mcc @slembcke to be clear, everything gets worse because of this, and the only difference is the speed of the metamorphosis into liquid shit. The BSD ecosystem (especially in the application space) is not exactly hermetically sealed off from the Linux ecosystem.

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@sauc3 @mcc @slembcke also, the more contributors a project has the harder it is to guarantee none of them tried to pass off "ai" generated code as their own and managed to get it into review. Having a policy to at least require it be labeled so it can be given appropriate scrutiny might result in less of it getting in than an outright ban (and definitely less than having no policy at all). Hard to say, I'd rather ban it, but people are more honest when the answer is "maybe" instead of "no".

[mcc@mastodon.social]

@aeva @sauc3 @slembcke one workable approach might be for some "honeypot" project with no morals, such as redhat, to allow AI but require people to label their AI commits, and if someone is found to have committed AI to a Redhat project to ban them from your own project

[aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@mcc @sauc3 @slembcke that could work 🤔