Fuck, I have to change my opinion on leaf blowers.
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Fuck, I have to change my opinion on leaf blowers.
@wackJackle 😈 It's no worse than what the Whitehouse is spewing out these days. 😈
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Fuck, I have to change my opinion on leaf blowers.
@wackJackle one just needs to be a little curious and innovative to find new ways to play old stuff haha!
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@wackJackle @cryptica @sennoma you could at least add the info that the picture isn't a photograph to your post, to make it clear that the situation shown in the picture didn't actually happen.
Currently, you are spreading misinformation.
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@cryptica @wackJackle @sennoma
Yeah. I used to follow on fbk, IMO person has some problems with their love for shitposting over accurate info combined with trying to police their idea of the exact way all resistance should be.
Cool concept, look at the actual video down this thread; the fake AI image is useless beyond getting attention at best.
@Infrogmation
@cryptica @wackJackle @sennoma OP, I understand you feel strongly about the resistance; we all do. Sharing this image seems like an efficient way to spread the message, but it comes at the cost of your credibility. Our word is more important than ever. Don’t compromise it with mistruths, not even little teeny ones. This is not a photograph from 2020. It isn’t real. It may visually represent resistance, but that doesn’t justify promoting it as real. You are putting comrades in danger. Today you feel justified in sharing this; what will you justify tomorrow? On this trajectory, muting you would be protective. Please reconsider. -
@Infrogmation
@cryptica @wackJackle @sennoma OP, I understand you feel strongly about the resistance; we all do. Sharing this image seems like an efficient way to spread the message, but it comes at the cost of your credibility. Our word is more important than ever. Don’t compromise it with mistruths, not even little teeny ones. This is not a photograph from 2020. It isn’t real. It may visually represent resistance, but that doesn’t justify promoting it as real. You are putting comrades in danger. Today you feel justified in sharing this; what will you justify tomorrow? On this trajectory, muting you would be protective. Please reconsider.@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Please read all the other comments and watch the video of what happened in Portland in 2020.
Thank you for your considerations.
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Fuck, I have to change my opinion on leaf blowers.
@wackJackle This has the potential to get someone shot. In Portland they were not so comfortable with shooting someone in the face multiple times and think they'd get away with it. Now the in new landscape they can do just that and claim anything as an offensive weapon. I am not advocating doing nothing but know the risks, which this tip doesn't show.
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@wackJackle This has the potential to get someone shot. In Portland they were not so comfortable with shooting someone in the face multiple times and think they'd get away with it. Now the in new landscape they can do just that and claim anything as an offensive weapon. I am not advocating doing nothing but know the risks, which this tip doesn't show.
@byrnensorg Of course, that's just a post that went viral. There is a video in the thread on how they used it in Portland.
Everybody should always calculate what risk they are comfortable to take. That's a given.
Don't put this burden on me.
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@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Please read all the other comments and watch the video of what happened in Portland in 2020.
Thank you for your considerations.
@wackJackle @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma I already read the other comments before I replied. The video is not the photo. I am talking about the photo. Is it possible for you to defend the photo without conflating it with the video? Is it possible for you to respond to what I and others have actually stated? I disagree that the video justifies spreading mistruth. You are convincing no one with this avoidant dismissal.
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@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Please read all the other comments and watch the video of what happened in Portland in 2020.
Thank you for your considerations.
@wackJackle @seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Reading the comments - if that's slop, it's shit and reduces credibility of the poster.
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@wackJackle @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma I already read the other comments before I replied. The video is not the photo. I am talking about the photo. Is it possible for you to defend the photo without conflating it with the video? Is it possible for you to respond to what I and others have actually stated? I disagree that the video justifies spreading mistruth. You are convincing no one with this avoidant dismissal.
@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma I've done that several times. Didn't you read that? I'm not the one who posted the original message. Were leaf blowers used in Portland in 2020, yes or no? Are they therefore a method of defending oneself against the Pig Empire, yes or no? Won't future encounters between protesters and leaf blower carriers unfold as depicted in the AI image? Yes, of course. Would that have been the case with any other real photo? Yes, of course.
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@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma I've done that several times. Didn't you read that? I'm not the one who posted the original message. Were leaf blowers used in Portland in 2020, yes or no? Are they therefore a method of defending oneself against the Pig Empire, yes or no? Won't future encounters between protesters and leaf blower carriers unfold as depicted in the AI image? Yes, of course. Would that have been the case with any other real photo? Yes, of course.
@wackJackle @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma You are determined to justify your dishonesty. So be it.
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@kirakira Yeah, could be, but the point stands because that's what happened in Portland.
@wackJackle I don't think you're getting why people are upset about this. I believed you. I believed the picture. Now I'm skeptical about leaf blower's abilities to resist tear gas - it's an AI picture after all, might as well be a unicorn.
you say "well it really happened in Portland, so it don't matter" - well, share an actual documented case then!
until you do, you're doing a disservice to resistance.
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@wackJackle @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma You are determined to justify your dishonesty. So be it.
@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Thank you for not answering any of my questions/arguments. Your moral sentiment is worthless to me but I really apreciate that you had to give it to me.
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@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Thank you for not answering any of my questions/arguments. Your moral sentiment is worthless to me but I really apreciate that you had to give it to me.
@wackJackle
@Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma It’s unfortunate you cannot even choose to respond maturely to disagreement. -
@wackJackle I don't think you're getting why people are upset about this. I believed you. I believed the picture. Now I'm skeptical about leaf blower's abilities to resist tear gas - it's an AI picture after all, might as well be a unicorn.
you say "well it really happened in Portland, so it don't matter" - well, share an actual documented case then!
until you do, you're doing a disservice to resistance.
@timon There is a video of it happening in this thread. I commented many times on it already.
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Fuck, I have to change my opinion on leaf blowers.
wow that's a great way to get shot
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@wackJackle
@Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma It’s unfortunate you cannot even choose to respond maturely to disagreement.@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma You haven't made any 'maturely' comment so why should I bother?
You don't like AI, that's fine. Me, too. So what?
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Fuck, I have to change my opinion on leaf blowers.
@Heliograph New evidence surfaces in the case for leaf blowers!
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@wackJackle
@Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma It’s unfortunate you cannot even choose to respond maturely to disagreement.@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma If, instead of an AI image, it had been a real drawing of someone using a leaf blower against the authorities, would you have made the same arguments?
Think about that instead of trying to accuse me of something here.
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@seekingfreedom @Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma You haven't made any 'maturely' comment so why should I bother?
You don't like AI, that's fine. Me, too. So what?
@wackJackle
@Infrogmation @cryptica @sennoma Yes, why should you bother to receive feedback with curiosity & mutual respect? Why indeed?You ask “So what?” Here is my response:
Sharing this image seems like an efficient way to spread the message, but it comes at the cost of your credibility. Our word is more important than ever. Don’t compromise it with mistruths, not even little teeny ones. This is not a photograph from 2020. It isn’t real. It may visually represent resistance, but that doesn’t justify promoting it as real. You are putting comrades in danger.