It gets tiring to write Piefed/Lemmy/Mbin to call our part of the Fediverse, is Threadiverse now the accepted term?
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I used to say "Welcome to Lemmy" to new joiners, but nowadays quite a few of them join Piefed instance, having a generic term is easier
You can't follow Mastodon users from Lemmy or Piefed, using "Fedivers" seems too generic
Previous post on the same topic: https://lemmy.zip/post/33451610
I use Fediverse as threads is tied to meta
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Personally I hate "verse" lingo.
I get that. It's like every political conspiracy is a "-gate". But its a useful shorthand, and thats what the term needs.
Every time I explain it to someone, I roll my eyes a little at those terms, but thats what it's called... It sounds so marketing. Trying to tell someone "join the Fediverse" feels like selling a cult, a little, lol
I may ask my wife if she'll let me set up something for her to scroll other than TikTok, though. She's not the type to dive into new stuff like this without good reason, but if I just go "here's your app, all set up with stuff you'll generally enjoy!" maybe it'll drag her off that godawful site.
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I get that. It's like every political conspiracy is a "-gate". But its a useful shorthand, and thats what the term needs.
Every time I explain it to someone, I roll my eyes a little at those terms, but thats what it's called... It sounds so marketing. Trying to tell someone "join the Fediverse" feels like selling a cult, a little, lol
I may ask my wife if she'll let me set up something for her to scroll other than TikTok, though. She's not the type to dive into new stuff like this without good reason, but if I just go "here's your app, all set up with stuff you'll generally enjoy!" maybe it'll drag her off that godawful site.
Sure, although those terms are buzzwords only, not marketing speak. Like blogiverse, definitely not marketing.
The marketing term the Social Web Foundation wants to put forward is "Open Social Web", but that encompasses more than the threaded softwares (includes Mastodon, Peertube, etc.)
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I use Fediverse as threads is tied to meta
Gemini is both the Google AI and the network protocol, it seems clear which one you’re referring to depending on context
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Gemini is both the Google AI and the network protocol, it seems clear which one you’re referring to depending on context
Arguably the context is very similar - it makes it seem like Threads is part of the "Threadiverse". AFAIK it's not? The fact that I don't know is rather telling.
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I used to say "Welcome to Lemmy" to new joiners, but nowadays quite a few of them join Piefed instance, having a generic term is easier
You can't follow Mastodon users from Lemmy or Piefed, using "Fedivers" seems too generic
Previous post on the same topic: https://lemmy.zip/post/33451610
Just call it Fediverse.
Fediverse can be part. Fediverse can be all. Fediverse is the all that federates with the bit. Fediverse ought. Fediverse will be. It's even on Poob. Poob will federate it for you. Poob will federate it for you.
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Just call it Fediverse.
Fediverse can be part. Fediverse can be all. Fediverse is the all that federates with the bit. Fediverse ought. Fediverse will be. It's even on Poob. Poob will federate it for you. Poob will federate it for you.
It doesn't make sense to tell someone "Welcome to the Fediverse" when they join Piefed or Lemmy as they can't follow Mastodon or Sharkey users
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Arguably the context is very similar - it makes it seem like Threads is part of the "Threadiverse". AFAIK it's not? The fact that I don't know is rather telling.
!piefed_meta@piefed.social has nothing to do with the Meta company
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!piefed_meta@piefed.social has nothing to do with the Meta company
I, uh, don't know what you're trying to say. I was talking about support for the ActivityPub protocol.
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It doesn't make sense to tell someone "Welcome to the Fediverse" when they join Piefed or Lemmy as they can't follow Mastodon or Sharkey users
Except that, apparently you can? A recent post I made on Lemmy had replies from Mastodon accounts afaict
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Except that, apparently you can? A recent post I made on Lemmy had replies from Mastodon accounts afaict
Interacting with Lemmy threads from Mastodon is easy, the inverse not so much
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Except that, apparently you can? A recent post I made on Lemmy had replies from Mastodon accounts afaict
Lemmy and Mastodon can interact (yay federation!) but you can't follow microblog users from Lemmy.
Up until recently, communities couldn't follow other communities, because it's just not a "thing" Lemmy or Piefed do. Users follow communities, yeah?
Except NodeBB tries to have communities follow communities. :)
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Interacting with Lemmy threads from Mastodon is easy, the inverse not so much
Yep only Mbin achieve that :3
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Yep only Mbin achieve that :3
NodeBB too :blush:
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I, uh, don't know what you're trying to say. I was talking about support for the ActivityPub protocol.
I was referring to this comment ( https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/21052151 )
And the word meta itself is used for meta communities on the Threadiverse which have nothing to do with Meta the company. Words existed before companies took them.
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I used to say "Welcome to Lemmy" to new joiners, but nowadays quite a few of them join Piefed instance, having a generic term is easier
You can't follow Mastodon users from Lemmy or Piefed, using "Fedivers" seems too generic
Previous post on the same topic: https://lemmy.zip/post/33451610
I mean I call the fediverse the federation so I guess I should call it the threaderation
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I mean I call the fediverse the federation so I guess I should call it the threaderation
The United Threaderation of Instances?
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I was referring to this comment ( https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/21052151 )
And the word meta itself is used for meta communities on the Threadiverse which have nothing to do with Meta the company. Words existed before companies took them.
So you didn't mean to reply to me in the first place?
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So you didn't mean to reply to me in the first place?
I did, I was making a comparison how comments words such as "meta" and "threads" shouldn't be owned by corporations
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I did, I was making a comparison how comments words such as "meta" and "threads" shouldn't be owned by corporations
Whilst I agree that they shouldn't, it's a fact that Threads exists and, as far as I know, is not part of the Threadiverse but is in an adjacent space. To the point where I personally, someone involved in the Fediverse, am not sure whether it communicates with the "Threadiverse". Mastodon does, for example.
If we were talking about a family of phones called "Threads" then that wouldn't be all that confusing, but when it's another social app then it's a mess.
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Chiamatemi per salvare le vostre vite da inutili necessità, per godere del piacere di fare cose inutili gratuitamente: non ha prezzo sta cosa
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@Ali_per_Viaggiare
Purtroppo non è semplice sostituire YouTube per chi questo canale rappresenta una fonte di reddito irrinunciabile (ma lo stesso vale per qualunque altra piattaforma).
La mercificazione dei contenuti, per cui il creatore è incoraggiato economicamente a postare contenuti "richiesti" o "di successo" funziona, altrimenti non ci avrebbero tirato su piattaforme di ogni tipo.
I contenuti dei content creator professionisti sono video di buona qualità, perché "professione" è una cosa seria, non si gioca con il reddito imponibile. Ma se non c'è domanda non c'è nemmeno offerta. E nessuno domanda su Peertube: anche solo la piattaforma galleggia sulle donazioni private. Mentre su YouTube è la piattaforma che paga, e pertanto ha più capacità della somma dei content creator che ospita.
Nessuno acquisterebbe attrezzature, spenderebbe tempo nell'editing o nei testi perfetti per farlo senza un ritorno, con alcune notevoli eccezioni, ovviamente, come per tutto: c'è chi ama fare qualcosa di utile e divertente e lo vive come un hobby, e c'è chi ama semplicemente potersi esprimere liberamente.
Vi immaginate il paradosso di un produttore che guadagna più denaro della piattaforma che lo hosta? Non è sostenibile, non credete?
Certo ci sono anche le piattaforme di fidelizzazione individuale, come Patreon o Onlyfans, che però paiono funzionare bene solo con particolari e casi d'uso o poche selezionate eccezioni alla regola. E non credo che con Activitypub si possa implementare nativamente una ACL così articolata e granulare come richiesto da questo tipo di piattaforme.
Penso che su Peertube non si potrà mai pensare di superare la soglia dell'amatoriale, che spesso va più che bene, eh, a meno che qualcuno, dai semi-pro in su, non decida di usarla come piattaforma *pro-bono* secondaria.
Alla fine la domanda da rispondere è sempre la stessa: quale è il modello di business che rende praticabile e sostenibile questo modello di interazioni sociali? Ricordiamoci che l'unico modello "in perdita" ammesso è quello hobbistico-amatoriale.
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#fediverso ascolta: ho superato il Whamageddon! E l'ho fatto sprezzante del pericolo: centri commerciali, bar, mercatini natalizi e due fiere di Natale. Anche le musiche natalizie di Viterbo, ma lì mi ha salvata @artematiko ❣️ E due inviti a cena con gli amici che hanno bonificato le playlist.
E da questo traggo un insegnamento:
non importa quanto sia scemo il tuo obiettivo, chi ti vuole bene ti sostiene anche nelle scemità.Vi auguro amici così.
#Whamageddon
#amicizia
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@GillesLeCorre2 bonne journée !
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Salut et adelphité #camarades #sallesconnes de la #fediverse et du #mastodon
Je vous souhaite un doux réveil et un heureux 25, que vous ayez fêté le 24 ou non.
Ce matin ici il pleut, je doutes qu'on aille monter la T. comme prévu s'il avait neigé.
Ce matin nous avons découvert au petit déjeuner les livres que nous nous sommes offerts pour notre petit Noël. Pas de surprises mais ça va nous faire notre journée de tout façon.Aimez vous !
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@Gina Merry Christmas to you, too, Gina.
