so if i were to rent a "server" for "self hosting",
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so if i were to rent a "server" for "self hosting",
1) what region/country is least likely to introduce draconian anti-privacy laws? eg, not USA, not EU, not Australia, etc
2) and is moderately unlikely to be walled off from the USA? eg I hopefully wont need to convince my friends who are still waffling on whether the discord real ID thing is a bridge too far how to use tor lol
EDIT: turns out this is a bad idea, see replies
@aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place non-EU european nato countries perhaps
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@kit ok, so, every few weeks there's a flurry of panicked posts to rally the EU folks to sign petitions or such to "stop chat control, again". if this "chat control" thing were to happen, would romania be obligated to implement it by being a member state? as a foreigner, I am unclear on how this works.
@aeva@mastodon.gamedev.place my understanding of chat control is that it's a client sided policy, so EU residents accessing your services would have their personal devices affected by the policy, but your server wouldn't itself be inherently compromised, and if you, say, operated a mail or chat server, it wouldn't be directly surveilled any more than it would have been a decade ago
but I too am a foreigner and could be wrong -
so if i were to rent a "server" for "self hosting",
1) what region/country is least likely to introduce draconian anti-privacy laws? eg, not USA, not EU, not Australia, etc
2) and is moderately unlikely to be walled off from the USA? eg I hopefully wont need to convince my friends who are still waffling on whether the discord real ID thing is a bridge too far how to use tor lol
EDIT: turns out this is a bad idea, see replies
@aeva time to decentralised p2p server infra
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so if i were to rent a "server" for "self hosting",
1) what region/country is least likely to introduce draconian anti-privacy laws? eg, not USA, not EU, not Australia, etc
2) and is moderately unlikely to be walled off from the USA? eg I hopefully wont need to convince my friends who are still waffling on whether the discord real ID thing is a bridge too far how to use tor lol
EDIT: turns out this is a bad idea, see replies
@aeva we live in a society, eh
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@aeva If it's really security-sensitive, reach out to the EFF and see if you can find someone who _really_ knows what they're doing (and "select a jurisdictionally optimal hosting provider" probably falls way down the list of stuff you need to do)
@glyph it wouldn't be for anything sensitive, i just don't want to live in a panopticon prison, and i'm not interested in volunteering to be the one to give my friends' IDs to fascists and databrokers
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@glyph it wouldn't be for anything sensitive, i just don't want to live in a panopticon prison, and i'm not interested in volunteering to be the one to give my friends' IDs to fascists and databrokers
@aeva unfortunately, as you probably already know,
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@aeva time to decentralised p2p server infra
@pupxel honestly if you know of p2p things that have both a good mobile and a good desktop client and implements private message board / chat room / and/or video chat, I'm all ears
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@pupxel honestly if you know of p2p things that have both a good mobile and a good desktop client and implements private message board / chat room / and/or video chat, I'm all ears
@aeva closest hope I have is https://matrix.org/
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2. Any provider that can accept non-cryptocurrency payment is attached to the US banking system and is probably going to be responsive to US subpoenas anyway.
3. *You* still have to be responsive to US subpoenas, regardless of where the server is hosted; if you delete your password or whatever they can jail you for contempt until you contact your provider's customer service.
There are definitely threat models where it makes sense to have an international host, but it's complicated.
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@ratsnakegames @aeva not the FBI, the CIA (or the NSA)
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@ratsnakegames @aeva not the FBI, the CIA (or the NSA)
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@ratsnakegames @glyph this is not the sword i am going to throw myself upon
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@ratsnakegames @glyph this is not the sword i am going to throw myself upon
@aeva good, we have pretty strict laws on edged weapons /j
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@glyph it wouldn't be for anything sensitive, i just don't want to live in a panopticon prison, and i'm not interested in volunteering to be the one to give my friends' IDs to fascists and databrokers
@aeva @glyph You might consider 1984 Hosting based in Iceland. The ADL tried some lawfare bullshit against their customer and the hosting company went to court and won. https://litigation.1984.hosting/
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so if i were to rent a "server" for "self hosting",
1) what region/country is least likely to introduce draconian anti-privacy laws? eg, not USA, not EU, not Australia, etc
2) and is moderately unlikely to be walled off from the USA? eg I hopefully wont need to convince my friends who are still waffling on whether the discord real ID thing is a bridge too far how to use tor lol
EDIT: turns out this is a bad idea, see replies
@aeva I don’t know much about this, but I know that @JulianOliver definitely does. https://mastodon.social/@JulianOliver/113489003640111152
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