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I find this shocking:
In the recent file release we have new documents that show that the prison footage of Epstein's cell was deleted by an FBI agent who was advised (or someone was advised) that this action would delete the footage.
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OK. Sure. Great. Wonderful. Makes total sense.
This has not gotten much traction and it's making me feel a little like a crazy person.
Is anyone going to ask why the FBI deleted this footage?
@futurebird It's a bit confusing. It seems the system was badly maintained and failing for some time before Epstein's death,
and that repairing it would destroy the saved footage. But it's not clear from this what was on it before the repair and if they copied it out first.
I remember a Coffeezila video showing the limited video angle from outside of the cell, and that there were 2 minutes missing. -
Okay, I can see that much. 🤔
I still don't understand why a hard drive has to be erased to replace it?
I don't have much experience with surveillances systems, per se, but I've replaced a LOT of hard drives over the years.
And this was never a thing -- except that you'd erase a drive with secure info to dispose of it. Is that what they meant? Because it seems like, particularly after the incident, you'd hang onto that data.
Unless you were intentionally destroying evidence, of course.
So was this document essentially a lie to try to make an intentional deletion look like some kind of technical limitation? 🤔
@TerryHancock @futurebird or [redacted] didnt understand it or explained it wrong. Of course if you replace the HD the files would no longer be in the system, and so appear to be "deleted"
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@TerryHancock @futurebird or [redacted] didnt understand it or explained it wrong. Of course if you replace the HD the files would no longer be in the system, and so appear to be "deleted"
This makes more sense.
The system might have a way to browse files from drives that were plugged in. "Pull" the drive and it's "gone"
It's not clear where the "pulled" drive went.
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@mhoye
Uh. I never actually used _raid_ raids, but uhh why should it wipe instead of resilver?
@futurebird@nobody @mhoye @futurebird Maybe if there wasn't enough data to rebuild? Like if it's a three drive array, you could lose one and rebuild the data, but lose two out of three and there's no way to recover that (assuming it's not RAID1). You might still be able to use forensic tools to recover some partial data but not complete files so the DVR would just wipe it out and start over.
RAID3 or RAID5 would work that way I think...wiki also says RAID3 is "suitable for applications that demand the highest transfer rates in long sequential reads and writes, for example uncompressed video editing." And RAID5 "requires that all drives but one be present to operate." So that seems to fit.
Although that would require one of those two bad drives to have failed after the incident for it to have actually recorded anything during it. And it says only one drive was working at the time of the incident. So it might not have had any useful data for that anyway.
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The more I look into the MCC the more I'm convinced that this incident makes no sense.
For guards it's kind of a sought after place to work since there is a high ratio of guards to inmates and it had a reputation for being a safer and less chaotic place to work.
Someone must know something.
@futurebird @goaty someone also probably got a lot of money to keep their mouth shut with the insurance of a death threat. til trump dies they wont come forward.
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I find this shocking:
In the recent file release we have new documents that show that the prison footage of Epstein's cell was deleted by an FBI agent who was advised (or someone was advised) that this action would delete the footage.
...
OK. Sure. Great. Wonderful. Makes total sense.
This has not gotten much traction and it's making me feel a little like a crazy person.
Is anyone going to ask why the FBI deleted this footage?
@futurebird Pretty sure we did at the time and it was simply glossed over unsatisfactorily. 🤷🏻♀️
Real conspiracies are almost always in the favor of the rich and powerful, whereas conspiracy "theories" involve machinations of someone marginalized or powerless.
I don't find it at all far-fetched that a witness against scores and scores of the most rich and powerful people in the world, would be eliminated by them.
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"A sufficient level of incompetence is indistinguishable from malice"
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The detail about the guards not doing their checks that night (but this wasn't a pattern for these guards (!) this is a good job as far as working in corrections goes why mess it up?? ) That detail wild to me and makes no sense.
The guards got in a little trouble for failing to do these checks. But then? Those charges are DROPPED.
Look at this sketchy article:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-59839724
Come on. Come on man.
Mark Epstein could have his brother’s body exhumed at ANY TIME and have the same independent medical examiner he had observing the autopsy do another examination of the body.
But all Mark wants to do is stoke conspiracy fires.
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@futurebird Pretty sure we did at the time and it was simply glossed over unsatisfactorily. 🤷🏻♀️
Real conspiracies are almost always in the favor of the rich and powerful, whereas conspiracy "theories" involve machinations of someone marginalized or powerless.
I don't find it at all far-fetched that a witness against scores and scores of the most rich and powerful people in the world, would be eliminated by them.
I just mean "conspiracy" in the sense that there is a group of people who know the truth and they have covered it up from the general public on a very large and public matter.
Even if it was "just" a case of "letting" him do it himself. That's still a huge miscarriage of justice.
The fact that he made that strange phone call to "his mom" (his mom is dead) the night before makes this seem possible ... who did he call?
A prison doesn't have phone records???
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@futurebird I assume the person who deleted the footage also killed him or is covering him. It's the same thing I assume when cops body or car cams aren't working in other circumstances .. maybe billionaires aren't as different as the rest of us all the time.
@thesquirrelfish @futurebird Definitely the party of "accidental" gross negligence / reckless disregard.
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@nobody @mhoye @futurebird Maybe if there wasn't enough data to rebuild? Like if it's a three drive array, you could lose one and rebuild the data, but lose two out of three and there's no way to recover that (assuming it's not RAID1). You might still be able to use forensic tools to recover some partial data but not complete files so the DVR would just wipe it out and start over.
RAID3 or RAID5 would work that way I think...wiki also says RAID3 is "suitable for applications that demand the highest transfer rates in long sequential reads and writes, for example uncompressed video editing." And RAID5 "requires that all drives but one be present to operate." So that seems to fit.
Although that would require one of those two bad drives to have failed after the incident for it to have actually recorded anything during it. And it says only one drive was working at the time of the incident. So it might not have had any useful data for that anyway.
@admin @nobody @futurebird this was a 16 drive machine…..
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Mark Epstein could have his brother’s body exhumed at ANY TIME and have the same independent medical examiner he had observing the autopsy do another examination of the body.
But all Mark wants to do is stoke conspiracy fires.
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I just mean "conspiracy" in the sense that there is a group of people who know the truth and they have covered it up from the general public on a very large and public matter.
Even if it was "just" a case of "letting" him do it himself. That's still a huge miscarriage of justice.
The fact that he made that strange phone call to "his mom" (his mom is dead) the night before makes this seem possible ... who did he call?
A prison doesn't have phone records???
@futurebird Yes. I'm saying this would fall into the territory of "believable" to me. It's not fantastical, nor does it go against prevailing sociological patterns.
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@admin @nobody @futurebird this was a 16 drive machine…..
@mhoye @nobody @futurebird What? Where do you see that?
Only one drive of 16 was working? So 15 had failed? And then they replaced "both"? What am I missing? I don't see how that math works lol
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@mhoye @nobody @futurebird What? Where do you see that?
Only one drive of 16 was working? So 15 had failed? And then they replaced "both"? What am I missing? I don't see how that math works lol
@admin
The PDF linked above
@mhoye @futurebird -
I find this shocking:
In the recent file release we have new documents that show that the prison footage of Epstein's cell was deleted by an FBI agent who was advised (or someone was advised) that this action would delete the footage.
...
OK. Sure. Great. Wonderful. Makes total sense.
This has not gotten much traction and it's making me feel a little like a crazy person.
Is anyone going to ask why the FBI deleted this footage?
@futurebird
I'd say someone is sitting on those harddrives... -
@futurebird
I'd say someone is sitting on those harddrives...If they contain nothing that contradicts the official story... why sit on them.
If they contain evidence that contradicts the story? Why keep them?
I think they have been destroyed.
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@admin
The PDF linked above
@mhoye @futurebird@nobody @mhoye @futurebird Ah, that wasn't in the thread so I had to open the top post in my browser to find it.
Still confused on the math though. And this doc calls it an "NP-2000" but when I put that into a search engine I get zero results. And without the hyphen all I get is an NEC projector. Maybe it's the Nicevision Pro NVR-2000? But that only supports 6 drives according to the spec sheet, although probably using the iSCSI interface so that might not matter. The PDF also refers to a "Dell Powerridge R420" but there is no such thing as a "Dell Powerridge", it's PowerEDGE...so this PDF has a lot of errors to begin with. I assume the "Premium 8600" is an Arena Maxtronic Premium 8600, super old but that probably makes sense.
But even if there were 16 drives present that doesn't necessarily mean all 16 were in use and part of the same RAID array. Could be hot spares, could be a separate array maybe, could just be off. And given the other errors on this doc and considering it doesn't detail the drives themselves I wouldn't be surprised if "containing 16 drives" just refers to it having 16 bays -- the Arena model mentioned above supports 16 but can operate with as few as 2.
Again, if it's got 16 drives, how was only one of those drives operational and how did replacing only two fix it? Admittedly I'm no expert in these systems but none of this information seems to fit together properly to me. And there are pretty obvious errors in the inventory list.
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I find this shocking:
In the recent file release we have new documents that show that the prison footage of Epstein's cell was deleted by an FBI agent who was advised (or someone was advised) that this action would delete the footage.
...
OK. Sure. Great. Wonderful. Makes total sense.
This has not gotten much traction and it's making me feel a little like a crazy person.
Is anyone going to ask why the FBI deleted this footage?
Did you see this ?
Wherein people found that by changing the extensions of released files unreleased information could be found?
Particularly some of the links in the now heavily censored reddit thread which are to footage in the prison from which only screenshots were officially released.
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I find this shocking:
In the recent file release we have new documents that show that the prison footage of Epstein's cell was deleted by an FBI agent who was advised (or someone was advised) that this action would delete the footage.
...
OK. Sure. Great. Wonderful. Makes total sense.
This has not gotten much traction and it's making me feel a little like a crazy person.
Is anyone going to ask why the FBI deleted this footage?
The FBI routinely conspires to protect powerful people. That's what it's for.
This doesn't get much traction because everyone already knows that the FBI does this. Look at pretty much any previous FBI case connected to politics.
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