Good news!

[feorag@wandering.shop]

Good news! My train to Zürich is operated by a Swiss company, not Deutsche Bahn.

[feorag@wandering.shop]

And we depart exactly on time.

[uilebheist@polyglot.city]

@feorag You'll only be safe from DeutscheBahnung when you cross the border, but it's not far.

[Or is that Deutchebahnverspätung?)

[uilebheist@polyglot.city]

@feorag ... and then you need to check what's going on between Zürich and Milano because there are damage to the line caused by weather...

[valhalla@social.gl-como.it]

@Uilebheist @feorag on the Italian side right now the line is completely closed between Chiasso (CH) and Como (IT)

so any delay or disruption is evidently the fault of the foreign operator, not SBB/CFF/FFS

(on a more serious note: the official warning from the swiss operatori sbb.ch/en says “Road and rail traffic has been severely affected. Travellers who do not have to travel to northern Italy urgently are not advised to travel. Rail services on the Chiasso–Milan Centrale route have been suspended and no rail replacement buses will be running between Chiasso and Milano Centrale. Passengers travelling to Italy should travel via the Simplon route to Milano Centrale instead. Please note that there may be capacity restrictions on the Simplon route. Service will last until 23 September 2025, around 11:59pm.”

(to be fair, the other commuter lines between the lower Tessin and Lombardy seem to be running, but there is no direct connection to Milan, they require at least one change)

[uilebheist@polyglot.city]

@valhalla @feorag Trenitalia imagines that the Eurocity trains will be running "with diversions". Apart from 3 which have been cancelled.
I'd advise to check with the station at Zürich as they'll have some information.

[bellinghman@wandering.shop]

@valhalla @feorag @Uilebheist When we went to Italy in March, we took the long way around, with the actual border crossing being between Chur and Tirano, and got to Milan that way, before picking up a Frecciarossa there for Naples

The tunnel from France to Italy had still been closed

[valhalla@social.gl-como.it]

@Uilebheist “Trenitalia imagines” is very evocative as a description :D

[valhalla@social.gl-como.it]

@bellinghman @Uilebheist @feorag that's quite a big detour (and I believe on quite slow lines?)

[uilebheist@polyglot.city]

@valhalla I think I found an alternative route changing trains.... also arriving at Porta Garibaldi instead of Centrale, but I can go and wait for @feorag there and I know my way around...

Will now go to the station to get my train. See if that's as "entertaining"...

[valhalla@social.gl-como.it]

@Uilebheist @feorag which one?

If I'm not mistaken the ECs are stopping at Lugano, and at every hour there is an S50 for Malpensa that stops at Lugano and then at Busto Arsizio

and from Busto Arsizio there are plenty of trains for Milan, for both Porta Garibaldi and Centrale

I think that all of the direct commuter trains from Lugano to Milan are on the Como line, and thus not running

(I know that at least one train to Milan from a line that doesn't involve Como arrived this morning with just 3 minutes of delay, so basically on time)

[valhalla@social.gl-como.it]

@feorag @Uilebheist asking the swiss train operators for suggestions is probably a good thing anyway, because they can help you with the hard problem of “which ticket am I supposed to buy, and why aren't you allowing me to get to my destination with an alternative route under the ticket I have already paid, you bastards?”

[uilebheist@polyglot.city]

@valhalla @feorag Yes, that one. Lugano -> Gallarate -> Milano Porta Garibaldi. It does appear to be running. Hadn't noticed the one changing at Busto Arsizio.

[valhalla@social.gl-como.it]

@Uilebheist @feorag it's the same one, you can change at either Gallarate or Busto Arsizio

(I've just been told by a person nearby that they usually change at Gallarate and the sign with the trains is pretty big and convenient, you only have to be sure you're looking at the partenze (departures) and not the arrivi (arrivals) one)

The railway line is the same where this morning one train arrived on time, so unless there are further rains and unrelated disruptions there shouldn't be significant problems

[valhalla@social.gl-como.it]

@Uilebheist from Gallarate trains to Milano Porta Garibaldi are good, I've checked and trains for Milano Centrale exist, but are rarer than I remembered, and trains to Treviglio are slower, but are also good for either Milano Porta Garibaldi passante or Milano Repubblica

I agree that probably Milano Porta Garibaldi is the easiest option