You know what WONβT get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
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@Meema1616 @vnkr @greenpeace I applaud that, and I also wish for that future, but again, that was not my point. We're just not ready from a practical standpoint to switch all the fossil fuels right now to no fossil use. And greenpeace has been stubborn in keeping that narrative to the people like it already is. It's just not. Don't I want less fossil use? Off course I do. But I'm not blind for the reality of the present. No worries on the caps-lock ;-)
@TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace If we wait till the world ( who really does that mean?) is readyβ¦ well women wouldnβt vote, disease would still kill off babies ( soap was a game changer) oceans would all be polluted, weβd have never been capable of any change at all!!! We are watching as our forests die, as our ocean mammals suffer, as our planet screams ENOUGH! Waiting for Ready is just a state of inertia. Sometimes ready is NOW!
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@greenpeace if too many cargo ships are held up the Chinese solar arrays won't get delivered.
@greenpeace @bill_halcyon1 trains are great and they exist
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@greenpeace Pity the sun doesnβt shine at night and battery complexes arenβt yet build over there. Weβre not yet at the right stage for this comment.
@TomDB @greenpeace Sure we are. The current oil pinch is a great opportunity to call for accelerating renewables & storage, and keeping fossil carbon in the ground.
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@greenpeace Pity the sun doesnβt shine at night and battery complexes arenβt yet build over there. Weβre not yet at the right stage for this comment.
@TomDB @greenpeace Penfold, hush.
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@greenpeace Pity the sun doesnβt shine at night and battery complexes arenβt yet build over there. Weβre not yet at the right stage for this comment.
@TomDB not *all* the oil in the world is in the Gulf. Oil does not need to become irrelevant for their regimes to be, just a 25% in demand would do. Yet here we are @greenpeace
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You know what WONβT get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
Solar and wind energy
@greenpeace thank god the international logistics of solar and wind tech are not bound by earthly distribution networks.
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You know what WONβT get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
Solar and wind energy
@greenpeace and nuclear ?
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@greenpeace Pity the sun doesnβt shine at night and battery complexes arenβt yet build over there. Weβre not yet at the right stage for this comment.
@TomDB @greenpeace It would still be more environmentally (and cost) effective if we relied on solar during the day and just switched to gas during the night
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You know what WONβT get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
Solar and wind energy
@greenpeace Coal doesn't' get caught there either. I 'm surprised the coal people are not funding adverts about that.
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You know what WONβT get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
Solar and wind energy
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You know what WONβT get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
Solar and wind energy
@greenpeace
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You know what WONβT get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
Solar and wind energy
@greenpeace And Nuclear
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You know what WONβT get stuck in the Strait of Hormuz?
Solar and wind energy
@greenpeace that one got stuck in Suez, have you forgotten? also it can get stuck in Malacca.
just in case you missed what happens around Taiwanso naive π
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@TomDB @greenpeace and who's fault it is the battery storage systems are not more widely used?
This is exactly the time for this comment. We need to stop burning fossil fuels as a society.
@vnkr @TomDB @greenpeace
Batteries supplying up to 9% of demand at night.We have seen batteries charge with cheap solar, discharge all night, dump remaining energy before 6am and start the solar charging cycle again.
We have had 252,000 household battery systems have been installed with a total storage capacity of 6,280 megawatt-hours, in just 6 months.
Meanwhile there is a ever expanding amount of grid batteries being built or in development. Getting bigger and longer duration.
There is also pumped hydro storage, hydro. Wind etc.
Maybe your government just isn't trying.
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@greenpeace Pity the sun doesnβt shine at night and battery complexes arenβt yet build over there. Weβre not yet at the right stage for this comment.
@TomDB @greenpeace Actually we are, and if you did basic research you'll see China have been surpassing all other countries in this regard.
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@vnkr @TomDB @greenpeace
Batteries supplying up to 9% of demand at night.We have seen batteries charge with cheap solar, discharge all night, dump remaining energy before 6am and start the solar charging cycle again.
We have had 252,000 household battery systems have been installed with a total storage capacity of 6,280 megawatt-hours, in just 6 months.
Meanwhile there is a ever expanding amount of grid batteries being built or in development. Getting bigger and longer duration.
There is also pumped hydro storage, hydro. Wind etc.
Maybe your government just isn't trying.
@SuperMoosie @vnkr @greenpeace Tom is just another troll, it's obvious, best to just block and not even bother.
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@greenpeace Pity the sun doesnβt shine at night and battery complexes arenβt yet build over there. Weβre not yet at the right stage for this comment.
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@greenpeace You still have no solution for when it's dark. The time when we all are using (hopefully) electricity to heat our houses. They won't work then. I hope we all already know that not using fossil fuels is an ecological advantage but that was never my point. My point was about the practicality of providing the global population with the necessary energy. Ecological advantage has no meaning when you can't produce electricity when it's dark.
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@vnkr @greenpeace And so the common people can really sway the regulatory side, yeah, totally true. so yeah, this comment is very useful in this platform.
Iβd rather see them pressuring governments. Iβm all for that.
@TomDB @vnkr @greenpeace You know I havenβt used petrol since 2019 and since last November my gas was disconnected because I donβt use it anymore. Now profiting nicely. :) Of course the government needs to play its part but itβs not true that people can do nothing.
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@greenpeace You still have no solution for when it's dark. The time when we all are using (hopefully) electricity to heat our houses. They won't work then. I hope we all already know that not using fossil fuels is an ecological advantage but that was never my point. My point was about the practicality of providing the global population with the necessary energy. Ecological advantage has no meaning when you can't produce electricity when it's dark.
@TomDB @greenpeace I pay dynamic prices for electricity. The night is usually cheap because of the wind parks. Middle of the day is cheap due to abundant solar. Only left to solve is the morning and evening peak hours. I have a small battery that carries me across. Itβs really not as bad as you think.