Can’t wait to find out how this upgrade enhances my dishwasher’s performance.

[larymir@chaos.social]

@dan now I'm wondering if we have the same model or if that update targeted multiple devices
(And I need to find out where they hide the changelog, I did see one in the past!)

[someone_else@infosec.exchange]

@skade @amberage @flyIng @dan

Wie meinen?
Du hast es eh sehr treffend erklärt.
Aber welche Öffentlichkeit will schon gerne hören das sie selbst teil des Problems ist?

[rvlara23@mastodon.social]

@someone_else @dan

Man, what the faaaaaaaaaack?

I hope my non smart appliances last forever.

[justinderrick@mstdn.ca]

@someone_else @dan This is why my 14 year old “smart” TV has never tasted the open internet. I did download a firmware update to a USB stick to fix an MP4 playback issue about a year after I bought it, but that’s it.

My printer is on its own WiFi network that doesn’t have any external connection because I don’t trust HP’s firmware after there were some RCE’s in other products.

[agowa338@chaos.social]

@flyIng @someone_else @dan

Eigentlich musst du dafür nur die Netzspannung messen.

Dummes beispiel:
250V => Jetzt laufen.
200V => Jetzt NICHT laufen.

[patrick@hatoya.cafe]

@dan@discuss.systems @someone_else@infosec.exchange

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and I hate it

[timwardcam@c.im]

@jernej__s @someone_else @dan Wrong attitude. If you're being modern then your phone is always in your hand, all 842 apps that you might need are always running, it's remembering where you put the dishwasher that's the hard bit.

[ruuda@fosstodon.org]

@someone_else @dan I think the primary reason my vacuum cleaner has bluetooth is exactly to update its bluetooth firmware.

(It also has an app that can notify you when the container is full. But the container is TRANSPARENT and it's also RIGHT THERE next to the handle you're holding it with, so you could also, you know, LOOK AT IT to know if it's full?)

[thomasfuchs@hachyderm.io]

@dan I cut my Bosch off the Wi-Fi, guess what, it still works

[aiuto@masto.social]

@ArrestJK @someone_else @dan
The closest we get to dishwasher porn. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHP942Livy0

[reay@beige.party]

@dan @APBBlue
@FirewallDragons

[arrestjk@mastodon.nz]

@aiuto @someone_else @dan LOL your dishwasher will enjoy that

[walshman23@mastodon.social]

@someone_else @dan I just got a new dishwasher. Certain (not often used, thank goodness) cleaning cycles are only available via "the app". I made a conscious decision to forego access to these so I would not need to put the thing on the network. But it's very annoying that this tradeoff even needed to be considered. Bosch 800 series, in case anyone cares.

[npars01@mstdn.social]

@someone_else @dan

Home appliances are on the internet as part of a planned obsolescence scheme.

They can be bricked remotely to force consumers to buy new appliances.

They are also vulnerable to being hijacked for botnet mischief, surveillance, and kill switches

[dantalion@fosstodon.org]

@Silberwoelfin @GrahamDowns @someone_else @dan I micro my crappy dishwasher and washer daily because eclectricity is substantially cheaper starting 23:00 and its honestly a pita to stay awake till 23:00 everyday I have to turn one of these on.

I sure wish they had Bluetooth or somecrap but I agree I rather have nothing then cloud somethibg compared to local.

[longplay_games@mastodon.gamedev.place]

@CppGuy @jernej__s @someone_else @dan Interesting to know Bosch has gone down that drain.

I feel better about skipping them for my most recent purchase (though I chose to do so because the parts were too pricey here)

[wokstation@universeodon.com]

@dan "medieval dynasty", a game, has an npc farmer complaining;
"I need to grow cabbages, so i can make fertiliser, to grow more cabbages, to make more fertiliser. *sighs*"
This reminds me of that.

[grahamdowns@mastodon.africa]

@dantalion @Silberwoelfin @someone_else @dan we don't have cheap power during particular hours; our price is the same regardless. We do have solar, though, as I said, so we try to run the heavy appliances only when the sun is shining.

The things we do to save money, eh? *sigh*

[toranpetto@troet.cafe]

@dan

When reading all this I am considering to scan the local ads and look for a second piece of my 10 y old dishwasher which communicates only via a few LED and store it in the basement as backup.

[dusk@todon.eu]

@someone_else @dan

Related:

https://todon.eu/@dusk/115245498112799116