So we have "opt in" so you have to explicitly say yes
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So we have "opt in" so you have to explicitly say yes
Then we have "opt out", where you can take steps to say no
Then you have "nag in", the new popular solution where where you're given a choice you probably don't have any good reason to go a long with, but you will be nagged on regular intervals until you either give in, or click accept by accident. And every time you say no, you need to scroll through a vast set of identical-sounding variations of the same question.
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So we have "opt in" so you have to explicitly say yes
Then we have "opt out", where you can take steps to say no
Then you have "nag in", the new popular solution where where you're given a choice you probably don't have any good reason to go a long with, but you will be nagged on regular intervals until you either give in, or click accept by accident. And every time you say no, you need to scroll through a vast set of identical-sounding variations of the same question.
@kly "Continue" "Ask me later"
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So we have "opt in" so you have to explicitly say yes
Then we have "opt out", where you can take steps to say no
Then you have "nag in", the new popular solution where where you're given a choice you probably don't have any good reason to go a long with, but you will be nagged on regular intervals until you either give in, or click accept by accident. And every time you say no, you need to scroll through a vast set of identical-sounding variations of the same question.
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So we have "opt in" so you have to explicitly say yes
Then we have "opt out", where you can take steps to say no
Then you have "nag in", the new popular solution where where you're given a choice you probably don't have any good reason to go a long with, but you will be nagged on regular intervals until you either give in, or click accept by accident. And every time you say no, you need to scroll through a vast set of identical-sounding variations of the same question.
@kly Pretty much. I personally am tired of the cookie acceptance | rejection forms where all I did was try to look at a recipe or crochet pattern & in order to do so, I must scroll through a long list of radio buttons to turn off and then they present you with 2 different buttons which both mean no, but only one of them saves the responses to the radio buttons...
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So we have "opt in" so you have to explicitly say yes
Then we have "opt out", where you can take steps to say no
Then you have "nag in", the new popular solution where where you're given a choice you probably don't have any good reason to go a long with, but you will be nagged on regular intervals until you either give in, or click accept by accident. And every time you say no, you need to scroll through a vast set of identical-sounding variations of the same question.
@kly these are called ‘dark patterns’ and are prohibited by FTC.
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So we have "opt in" so you have to explicitly say yes
Then we have "opt out", where you can take steps to say no
Then you have "nag in", the new popular solution where where you're given a choice you probably don't have any good reason to go a long with, but you will be nagged on regular intervals until you either give in, or click accept by accident. And every time you say no, you need to scroll through a vast set of identical-sounding variations of the same question.
@kly Windows choice of "Yes" or "Remind me in 3 days" is just another of the straws that moved me to Linux.
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So we have "opt in" so you have to explicitly say yes
Then we have "opt out", where you can take steps to say no
Then you have "nag in", the new popular solution where where you're given a choice you probably don't have any good reason to go a long with, but you will be nagged on regular intervals until you either give in, or click accept by accident. And every time you say no, you need to scroll through a vast set of identical-sounding variations of the same question.
@kly not many are convinced enough to resist the nag but those who do have mysterious issues all over the place, sometimes they come with an error that hints at "your settings"...
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So we have "opt in" so you have to explicitly say yes
Then we have "opt out", where you can take steps to say no
Then you have "nag in", the new popular solution where where you're given a choice you probably don't have any good reason to go a long with, but you will be nagged on regular intervals until you either give in, or click accept by accident. And every time you say no, you need to scroll through a vast set of identical-sounding variations of the same question.
@kly "nag-in" is a much more polite way of phrasing "rape culture".
(I'm not trying to trivialize the latter. I genuinely believe it's the same pattern and mentality: push, push, push until you get what you want, and never accept a no.)
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@kly "nag-in" is a much more polite way of phrasing "rape culture".
(I'm not trying to trivialize the latter. I genuinely believe it's the same pattern and mentality: push, push, push until you get what you want, and never accept a no.)
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So we have "opt in" so you have to explicitly say yes
Then we have "opt out", where you can take steps to say no
Then you have "nag in", the new popular solution where where you're given a choice you probably don't have any good reason to go a long with, but you will be nagged on regular intervals until you either give in, or click accept by accident. And every time you say no, you need to scroll through a vast set of identical-sounding variations of the same question.
@kly @NolamiAmada meanwhile, the owl from Zelda: Ocarina of time: "just make it confusing which one is yes and which one is no
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So we have "opt in" so you have to explicitly say yes
Then we have "opt out", where you can take steps to say no
Then you have "nag in", the new popular solution where where you're given a choice you probably don't have any good reason to go a long with, but you will be nagged on regular intervals until you either give in, or click accept by accident. And every time you say no, you need to scroll through a vast set of identical-sounding variations of the same question.
@kly we also have "no-opt" where you have to accept a thing to continue participating in society. (E.g. banking apps, public transport apps, "cashless" transactions).
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So we have "opt in" so you have to explicitly say yes
Then we have "opt out", where you can take steps to say no
Then you have "nag in", the new popular solution where where you're given a choice you probably don't have any good reason to go a long with, but you will be nagged on regular intervals until you either give in, or click accept by accident. And every time you say no, you need to scroll through a vast set of identical-sounding variations of the same question.
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