if there was mitra with the entire feature set of mastodon it would be crazy.
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if there was mitra with the entire feature set of mastodon it would be crazy. Mitra is way easier to setup, maintain and configure and mastodon has a great ui, moderation and administation through a webui. Mitra's ui is very limited, theyer implementations of relays is stupid and it doesnt have object storage. Mastodon doesnt allow you to change the default message lenght without breaking the update system, has way higher resource usage and the setup for nginx is just a big ball of jank. Combining mastodon and mitra would make the ultime activitypub server.
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if there was mitra with the entire feature set of mastodon it would be crazy. Mitra is way easier to setup, maintain and configure and mastodon has a great ui, moderation and administation through a webui. Mitra's ui is very limited, theyer implementations of relays is stupid and it doesnt have object storage. Mastodon doesnt allow you to change the default message lenght without breaking the update system, has way higher resource usage and the setup for nginx is just a big ball of jank. Combining mastodon and mitra would make the ultime activitypub server.
fox@social.hostnetwork.xyz well, give silverpill@mitra.social some time :smile:
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@julian from what ive seen silverpill prefers pleroma over mastodon and they probably have never used mastodon(these is a assumtions, correct me if im wrong).
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@kopper right, I think we're saying the same thing overall. But everyone wants ideal compatibility with Mastodon, which then acts as a forcing function on them needing to support more things, which isn't great because obviously limited resources.
The goal seems to tend to be "interoperability with Mastodon" not "optimal federation via ActivityPub"
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@thisismissem re-reading my post i feel like it's a bit confusing what i'm talking about so let me clarify: "everything is a Note" is not the thing i'm saying is "fine". but Mastodon's behavior of simply placing a title and a link for anything it doesn't understand, in my opinion, is perfectly OK.
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@kopper so I'm not saying everyone should support everything, in fact, it's perfectly fine to have a decentralized ecosystem where one account enabled you to publish multiple different things.
Striving for interoperability with just the dominant software in the protocol doesn't result in good outcomes. It results in a reduction of interoperability.
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@julian from what ive seen silverpill prefers pleroma over mastodon and they probably have never used mastodon(these is a assumtions, correct me if im wrong).
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fox@social.hostnetwork.xyz well, give silverpill@mitra.social some time :smile:
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kopper@not-brain.d.on-t.work you're not wrong about that, and it's why awhile back I changed my stance on it for that exact reason.
I don't think it's wise to advocate for Mastodon to support other object types because what they're mainly interested in is converting as:Note (and sometimes as:Video and as:Question) into statuses.
What's really of concern is that Mastodon's fallback mechanism should handle non-Notes better, because the experience has degraded to the point that it is incentivising other software to "just send notes". The key is to raise the baseline of the fallback handler so that it is no longer a degraded experience. That's all.
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@thisismissem this is perhaps going to be an unpopular opinion around here but.... what if that's just fine, actually
hear me out: all this push for "everyone ought to support literally everything" just results in massive scope creep across a vast landscape of mostly unpaid volunteer burnout-driven projects
additionally: what would stop threads from embedding a blog post into their UI, remove all links going out, and subtly de-rank posts with regular links on them? "mastodon does embedding already" is a dangerous precedent imo.
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if there was mitra with the entire feature set of mastodon it would be crazy. Mitra is way easier to setup, maintain and configure and mastodon has a great ui, moderation and administation through a webui. Mitra's ui is very limited, theyer implementations of relays is stupid and it doesnt have object storage. Mastodon doesnt allow you to change the default message lenght without breaking the update system, has way higher resource usage and the setup for nginx is just a big ball of jank. Combining mastodon and mitra would make the ultime activitypub server.
