@yonder yeah, I remain surprised by how successful it's been. I like it less than several of its contemporary competitors (I prefer Perl or Ruby, for example, if we're talking language in the same category). I don't hate the language, but I have begun to hate the ecosystem. The constant churn in stuff that really should really be stable (building, packaging, distribution, dependency handling, in particular) makes it so unpleasant to be a maintainer on a bunch of Python projects.