Switch today, choose European

[schmaker@schmaker.eu]

@bufalo1973 @BuyFromEU I do IronFox with Aurora and F-Droid .. stock android, unflashable phone.

Yet, migrating between devices is pain in the ass...

[benhm3@saint-paul.us]

@BuyFromEU

Or just pay for, and use #kagi

[joy_intl@mastodon.online]

@BuyFromEU my biggest hurdle is email (sad face as in 2nd pic)

[eunity@mastodon.social]

@BuyFromEU Oppose Chat Control in the EU parliament whilst you're at it.

[kobold@social.troll.academy]

@BuyFromEU Great idea, if only @ecosia would not use #googletagmanager to still send data to #google

[graydon@canada.masto.host]

@chicraote de-googled phones exist, but you still can't buy apps without a google identity and this makes a de-googled phone substantially less useful.

@schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena

[haeggar@mastodon.social]

@BuyFromEU

[elearningtechie@mas.to]

@chicraote I run a Murena phone because I'm sick of US spy tech, but none of my UK bank apps work on it because banks class the phone as 'insecure'. It's a colossal pain.

[chicraote@piaille.fr]

@graydon @schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena This is not true : you can install most apps with Aurora Store (Google Play alternative) in anonymous mode. I closed my Google account years ago and I can install almost all the apps available on Google Play... Thank you @e_mydata and #aurora
https://auroraoss.com/

[lexinova@cyberplace.social]

@chicraote @graydon @schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena those phone are not secure no thanks.

[schmaker@schmaker.eu]

@e_mydata @murena @graydon @chicraote @BuyFromEU I'd say you misunderstood. You can install apps, but you can't buy them

[gerenuk@c.im]

@Pettet8 @BuyFromEU Brave is basically Chromium (Blink) which ist still contaminated with Google. Only option are Gecko based browsers like Firefox (better Waterfox or Librewolf)

[graydon@canada.masto.host]

@chicraote I own and use a e/OS phone. I am not making theoretical statements.

I did not say "install". I said "buy". You cannot buy squeak without a google identity.

If I want the paid version of Flowx (an excellent weather app with real costs to talk to real servers with the weather data), I can't have it without a google identity. If I want the paid version of RealCal or GitSync, I can't have it without a google identity. Et multi cetera.

@schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena

[raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie]

@graydon @chicraote @schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena
Revolut banking & An Post Banking not on Web. Only approved phones running Android or iOS.

[stekopf@mstdn.social]

@BuyFromEU

Try edit today, add an #Alttext 🙃

[graydon@canada.masto.host]

@raymaccarthy Yup. And that's difficult to distinguish from a de facto law requiring you to have a duopoly phone.

Which is not an appropriate stance for the public square which really ought to include "banking".

@chicraote @schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena

[chicraote@piaille.fr]

@graydon @schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena I understand, I wasn't aware of that. We've put too much power in the hands of Google Play and Apple App Store... How can we regain control ?

[lxrs@mastodon.online]

@BuyFromEU Ecosia and Qwant also like to spy, throwing AI and ads on us, just with a european label. Anything being european does not make it a good product.

[lancejz@mastodon.social]

@BuyFromEU I've been using DuckDuckGo for some time now.

[ancadinica@mastodon.social]

@BuyFromEU Sad, but true. 😪