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[joy_intl@mastodon.online]

@BuyFromEU my biggest hurdle is email (sad face as in 2nd pic)

[eunity@mastodon.social]

@BuyFromEU Oppose Chat Control in the EU parliament whilst you're at it.

[kobold@social.troll.academy]

@BuyFromEU Great idea, if only @ecosia would not use #googletagmanager to still send data to #google

[graydon@canada.masto.host]

@chicraote de-googled phones exist, but you still can't buy apps without a google identity and this makes a de-googled phone substantially less useful.

@schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena

[haeggar@mastodon.social]

@BuyFromEU

[elearningtechie@mas.to]

@chicraote I run a Murena phone because I'm sick of US spy tech, but none of my UK bank apps work on it because banks class the phone as 'insecure'. It's a colossal pain.

[chicraote@piaille.fr]

@graydon @schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena This is not true : you can install most apps with Aurora Store (Google Play alternative) in anonymous mode. I closed my Google account years ago and I can install almost all the apps available on Google Play... Thank you @e_mydata and #aurora
https://auroraoss.com/

[lexinova@cyberplace.social]

@chicraote @graydon @schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena those phone are not secure no thanks.

[schmaker@schmaker.eu]

@e_mydata @murena @graydon @chicraote @BuyFromEU I'd say you misunderstood. You can install apps, but you can't buy them

[gerenuk@c.im]

@Pettet8 @BuyFromEU Brave is basically Chromium (Blink) which ist still contaminated with Google. Only option are Gecko based browsers like Firefox (better Waterfox or Librewolf)

[graydon@canada.masto.host]

@chicraote I own and use a e/OS phone. I am not making theoretical statements.

I did not say "install". I said "buy". You cannot buy squeak without a google identity.

If I want the paid version of Flowx (an excellent weather app with real costs to talk to real servers with the weather data), I can't have it without a google identity. If I want the paid version of RealCal or GitSync, I can't have it without a google identity. Et multi cetera.

@schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena

[raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie]

@graydon @chicraote @schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena
Revolut banking & An Post Banking not on Web. Only approved phones running Android or iOS.

[stekopf@mstdn.social]

@BuyFromEU

Try edit today, add an #Alttext 🙃

[graydon@canada.masto.host]

@raymaccarthy Yup. And that's difficult to distinguish from a de facto law requiring you to have a duopoly phone.

Which is not an appropriate stance for the public square which really ought to include "banking".

@chicraote @schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena

[chicraote@piaille.fr]

@graydon @schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena I understand, I wasn't aware of that. We've put too much power in the hands of Google Play and Apple App Store... How can we regain control ?

[lxrs@mastodon.online]

@BuyFromEU Ecosia and Qwant also like to spy, throwing AI and ads on us, just with a european label. Anything being european does not make it a good product.

[lancejz@mastodon.social]

@BuyFromEU I've been using DuckDuckGo for some time now.

[ancadinica@mastodon.social]

@BuyFromEU Sad, but true. 😪

[mkj@social.mkj.earth]

@gerenuk @Pettet8 Yes, this is a point that a lot of people are either unaware of or conveniently ignore when talking about browsers. Switching from Google Chrome to something else based on Google Chrome (or Blink, its rendering engine) does very little to free us from Google's influence in the web browsing space. I went into that in some detail in my blog post https://michael.kjorling.se/blog/2024/staying-with-firefox-for-now/

@BuyFromEU

[graydon@canada.masto.host]

@chicraote I would prefer a system where there's "postal banking", strictly public banking services, and a phone to be legal for sale must support use of the postal bank for monetary transactions through which means you must be able to make any transaction you can make by any other means for no greater real cost than incurred by other means than using the postal bank.

(It's not obvious that for-profit banking is itself a tolerable situation.)

@schmaker @BuyFromEU @e_mydata @fairphone @murena