i nerd sniped myself tonight and i imagine the NSA operative who is assigned to me is very confused by the increasingly erratic and frustrated google searches for HOW DO I CALCULATE THE MOON WHERE IS THE MOON
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ok so back to the moon thing, i found another resource and i think i understand the why behind the asinine coordinate systems a little better but it also glosses over the math so it's kinda useless at the same time. i'm tempted to just make shit up and move on, but it would bother me that the function was wrong if i did that
@aeva This is why we threw our hands up and said, just use what's already been done. We outsource "where are the space things" to NAIF SPICE: https://naif.jpl.nasa.gov/naif/aboutspice.html (there's also the rust rewrite, ANISE, but we don't trust that at my place of work yet)
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@aeva I think part of it is we stopped trying to guess based on date and moved to measurements and short term extrapolation
@pupxel speak for yourself
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@aeva wait, is it your fault that we’re losing the moon in however many millions of years?
@c0dec0dec0de it might not be!
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@aeva This is why we threw our hands up and said, just use what's already been done. We outsource "where are the space things" to NAIF SPICE: https://naif.jpl.nasa.gov/naif/aboutspice.html (there's also the rust rewrite, ANISE, but we don't trust that at my place of work yet)
@squirrelbaffler it occurred to me that this is one of those situations where one would probably normally use a library, but the problem is I need to prioritize speed over accuracy because it's repeatedly invoked in a real time audio thread, a use case which i'd not expect to be shared by serious scientific or industrial use cases
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I warn you though, if I see the moon is broken tonight, I'll be complaining to you about it.
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I warn you though, if I see the moon is broken tonight, I'll be complaining to you about it.
@CliftonR I will happily accept moon-related bug reports
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astronomy math is out of this fucking world btw like want to know where the moon is? great buckle up you're in for a few hundred years of bizarre hacks and lots of exciting questions like "wait, why are they using the julian calendar?"
@aeva at least now we have the J2000 epoch, which kiiiiinda hides away a bit of the old cruft... but yeah, it's pretty wild.
On the other hand, thanks to these whacky calendar conversions they can apparently use observations made by Chinese astronomers 2000 years ago, so hey, maybe they have a point
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@aeva at least now we have the J2000 epoch, which kiiiiinda hides away a bit of the old cruft... but yeah, it's pretty wild.
On the other hand, thanks to these whacky calendar conversions they can apparently use observations made by Chinese astronomers 2000 years ago, so hey, maybe they have a point
@jon_valdes tbh i respect that modern astronomers decided this was fine and didn't go and add new problems to the pile
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in a way magpie math is kinda refreshing, like imagine not throwing everything away every few years because of industry fads
eee my copy of ｢The Astronomical Almanac 2025｣ arrived in the mail today while I was at work :D my hell spine hurts too much to be fussing with it tonight, but from flipping through it, it looks like it explains most of the information I've been missing and provides ample data to validate against <3
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eee my copy of ｢The Astronomical Almanac 2025｣ arrived in the mail today while I was at work :D my hell spine hurts too much to be fussing with it tonight, but from flipping through it, it looks like it explains most of the information I've been missing and provides ample data to validate against <3
I'm so excited I'm gonna figure out where the moon is :O
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@aeva *points vaguely upwards*
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@aeva *points vaguely upwards*
@rygorous too much light pollution :(
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@aeva it's probably for the best. Being an astronomer, it's a young man's game. If I were to eat something like that now, I'd be in a food coma for the rest of the day
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@lasiepedimore@devianze.city esatto! 😄
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I've noticed this when reading news articles or listening to podcasts. They'll talk about someone announcing this or that, and then embed a Tweet. And I'm looking for the link to the thing in the Tweet, and there isn't any. The Tweet is the thing.
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@alilly bigger than before.
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I'm somewhat disagree. Politicians make official statements on X that they don't publish anywhere else. Companies announce changes there that don't get posted anywhere else. X is the journal of record for changes of policy at the state and corporate level. I think that makes it real life. I don't think the discourse is real life, though.
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@scottjenson It might be as easy as offering to save a bookmark after onboarding?
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@aeva it's probably for the best. Being an astronomer, it's a young man's game. If I were to eat something like that now, I'd be in a food coma for the rest of the day
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@rygorous too much light pollution :(
