Brilliant news!
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@Edent
No, that's nonsense.Talk to an electrician and look at power of panel.
A typical 400W panel only gives that for a few hours each day in clear sky in Jun/Jul. A cheap "balcony" system is 1/2 that.
Maybe 10W to 40W at noon in Dec/Jan on average.
Without a battery you can't use ANY of the 400W if the mains supply fails.
You don't plug anything into the battery!
You plug into the inverter or inverter/UPS. The Electricity companies don't pay well for the Solar to grid!
Oven is irrelevantOctopus Flux export tariff is much better than other companys'
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Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.
Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-go-further-and-faster-in-becoming-energy-secure
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Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.
Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-go-further-and-faster-in-becoming-energy-secure
@Edent any suspicion when from? Do we think weeks or months away?
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@bloor STRAIGHT TO JAIL FOR A THOUSAND YEARS!
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@Edent any suspicion when from? Do we think weeks or months away?
@seanhood Write to your MP, tell them you think it is a brilliant idea, and ask when it will be in place.
That will show them (and the department) that their constituents are interested in green energy.
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@bloor STRAIGHT TO JAIL FOR A THOUSAND YEARS!
@Edent second hand sunny boy sb1200, a “naughty” cable, and ten 100W panels. I did plug it into a radial with just that one socket on it, so it was “safe”.
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Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.
Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-go-further-and-faster-in-becoming-energy-secure
@Edent I love the idea of this, but the suicide plug on the end scares me. Assuming they have some pretty quick cutoff times or something in case you pull the plug out?
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@Edent I love the idea of this, but the suicide plug on the end scares me. Assuming they have some pretty quick cutoff times or something in case you pull the plug out?
@jpwsutton Yes. The inverter which turns DC from the panels into AC for your home needs a "carrier" frequency to work. It has to match the Hz in your wires.
If it loses that, it instantly shuts down.
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Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.
Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-go-further-and-faster-in-becoming-energy-secure
@Edent@mastodon.social This is the sort of chaos-with-Ed-Milliband that I can get behind.
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@annehargreaves @Christo_459
Sure, but you lose nothing by asking.As ever, people need to engage with their local politicians rather than just feeling hopeless or ranting on the Internet.
@Edent @annehargreaves
I will certainly mail my MP but we also have a very strong residents association
I'm.travelling home to London on Friday so next week will set to. -
@revk @Walrus @Edent
I'm not an electrical engineer so this might not be the whole story.As you add generation to the local distribution network, and assuming there's not enough local demand to consume it all, the voltage rises. Eventually it gets to 258V (230+12%) which is the upper tolerance limit. At that point, local generation starts to shut down.
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Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.
Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-go-further-and-faster-in-becoming-energy-secure
When do we know if this is complete and fully legal? -
When do we know if this is complete and fully legal?
@matthewcroughan when it is finally announced. They aren't going to keep it secret.
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Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.
Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-go-further-and-faster-in-becoming-energy-secure
Another question, why was this ever illegal? -
@jpwsutton Yes. The inverter which turns DC from the panels into AC for your home needs a "carrier" frequency to work. It has to match the Hz in your wires.
If it loses that, it instantly shuts down.
That's how all inverters work.@Edent Makes complete sense. I guess I'd just never considered that would be fine on a type G plug too, but no reason why not I suppose!
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Another question, why was this ever illegal?
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@matthewcroughan
See my answer at
https://mastodon.social/@Edent/116233685137748142And finally, the next question, where's the objectively best place to get the best solar panels that isn't lidl, in the UK, at the moment? :P -
@OneInterestingFact @Edent
The ideal is that you have an immersion heater at the bottom of a tank.
The 3kW rating is a limit, not a requirement. 200W makes warm water if that's what you have. We occasionally get up to 1.1kW into it.Retrofitting instantaneous gas systems probably isn't worthwhile, but there's a gadget more used in Ireland with a small cylinder and heater, which you could use to preheat.
In truth though, small flats etc can just ignore the few watt hours that escape.
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And finally, the next question, where's the objectively best place to get the best solar panels that isn't lidl, in the UK, at the moment? :P
@matthewcroughan
Knock on your neighbours' doors. Ask them who installed their solar and whether they'd recommend them. -
@matthewcroughan
Knock on your neighbours' doors. Ask them who installed their solar and whether they'd recommend them.Oh, I'm in Birkenhead, there's no solar anywhere around here. I haven't seen a single installation. I find it funny that you think it's that common, you have no idea how thirsty I am for solar.