Brilliant news!
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@revk @Walrus @Edent
I'm not an electrical engineer so this might not be the whole story.As you add generation to the local distribution network, and assuming there's not enough local demand to consume it all, the voltage rises. Eventually it gets to 258V (230+12%) which is the upper tolerance limit. At that point, local generation starts to shut down.
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Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.
Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-go-further-and-faster-in-becoming-energy-secure
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When do we know if this is complete and fully legal?
@matthewcroughan when it is finally announced. They aren't going to keep it secret.
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Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.
Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-go-further-and-faster-in-becoming-energy-secure
Another question, why was this ever illegal? -
@jpwsutton Yes. The inverter which turns DC from the panels into AC for your home needs a "carrier" frequency to work. It has to match the Hz in your wires.
If it loses that, it instantly shuts down.
That's how all inverters work.@Edent Makes complete sense. I guess I'd just never considered that would be fine on a type G plug too, but no reason why not I suppose!
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Another question, why was this ever illegal?
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@matthewcroughan
See my answer at
https://mastodon.social/@Edent/116233685137748142And finally, the next question, where's the objectively best place to get the best solar panels that isn't lidl, in the UK, at the moment? :P -
@OneInterestingFact @Edent
The ideal is that you have an immersion heater at the bottom of a tank.
The 3kW rating is a limit, not a requirement. 200W makes warm water if that's what you have. We occasionally get up to 1.1kW into it.Retrofitting instantaneous gas systems probably isn't worthwhile, but there's a gadget more used in Ireland with a small cylinder and heater, which you could use to preheat.
In truth though, small flats etc can just ignore the few watt hours that escape.
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And finally, the next question, where's the objectively best place to get the best solar panels that isn't lidl, in the UK, at the moment? :P
@matthewcroughan
Knock on your neighbours' doors. Ask them who installed their solar and whether they'd recommend them. -
@matthewcroughan
Knock on your neighbours' doors. Ask them who installed their solar and whether they'd recommend them.Oh, I'm in Birkenhead, there's no solar anywhere around here. I haven't seen a single installation. I find it funny that you think it's that common, you have no idea how thirsty I am for solar. -
Oh, I'm in Birkenhead, there's no solar anywhere around here. I haven't seen a single installation. I find it funny that you think it's that common, you have no idea how thirsty I am for solar.For balcony solar, you're probably going to want the absolute best panels in order to get the most out of the limited surface area, that's what I'm curious about.
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@Edent second hand sunny boy sb1200, a “naughty” cable, and ten 100W panels. I did plug it into a radial with just that one socket on it, so it was “safe”.
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Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.
Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-go-further-and-faster-in-becoming-energy-secure
@Edent
Don't forget the battery bank, inverter, control box.
Oh, and a balcony.
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@Edent
Don't forget the battery bank, inverter, control box.
Oh, and a balcony.
Or a roof.
Or even a garden.@WellsiteGeo You don't need the battery bank. That's the point. If you have no space, you can literally hang them out of a window.
If you live somewhere without windows, you have bigger problems!
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Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.
Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-go-further-and-faster-in-becoming-energy-secure
@Edent Hmm, I've not got a balcony, but...hmm I wonder where we could put this in the back.
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@Edent Makes complete sense. I guess I'd just never considered that would be fine on a type G plug too, but no reason why not I suppose!
@jpwsutton@mastodon.social @Edent@mastodon.social its also limited to 800W so unlikely to cause problems on the physical plug/socket
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"The portable, plug-in solar panels can be placed in gardens or on walls and balconies"
Especially interesting since the price of a solar panels is competitive with the price of fence panels
@sean @Edent Solar fences are gaining in popularity, althoughly mainy in rural land. They use "bifacial" panels, i.e panels that have solar cells on both sides.
You dont get double the power, but if a one sided panel would get 400w, a bifacial will normally get something like 550w. They have other plus sides too, in that being placed vertically means they dont overheat like angled single side panels, so they keep producing steadily when its hottest even when normal panel efficeny starts to fall. They also do slightly better in winter, as they are ideally placed to catch "bouncing" sunlight from snow/etc.
The downside? Cost, but again its not 2x, more like 1.25x. Also the fence mounting systems all seem to be intended for commerical/industrial installers, with basicslly no residential options.
Still, if you need a new fence and are solar curious, DIY is likely still easier than a DIY roof install. Ive been looking at using standard notched fence posts and steel zipties, but havent taken the leap yet.
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@OneInterestingFact
Yes. If you have an export tariff you'll get paid for every kWh you pass back to the grid.@Edent @OneInterestingFact how would that work, I currently have a second meter on a feed from the inverter to export power and I get a lower price than I pay to import. It doesn't sound like plugin solar will have that and if it just runs the meter backwards then they are getting a better deal than I do.
Plus my system has to automatically disconnect from the grid in a power cut so as not to electrocute power workers.
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Brilliant news! The UK's Labour Government are going to make "plug in solar" legal.
Grab some panels from Lidl, hang them off your balcony or out your window, plug them in to your mains. Done!
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/government-to-go-further-and-faster-in-becoming-energy-secure
@Edent finally the UK government doing something right!