Web developers: we are going to go out of our way to hide the scrollbars!
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Web developers: we are going to go out of our way to hide the scrollbars!
Users: but that makes it difficult to know how much of the text is left to read!
Web developers: don't worry, we'll add a non-standard UI element that signals this in some non-obvious, weird way!
@rysiek My bigger gripe with "disappearing scrollbars" is that they can make it very hard to scroll if you are not using either a touchscreen or a mouse with a scroll wheel. If you have to actually click the scrollbar with your cursor then good luck finding it ...
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Web developers: we are going to go out of our way to hide the scrollbars!
Users: but that makes it difficult to know how much of the text is left to read!
Web developers: don't worry, we'll add a non-standard UI element that signals this in some non-obvious, weird way!
@rysiek I mean I literally did that to my emacs my alfernative is line numbers and a fraction of current line vs. total # lines. But I see how the difference is me deciding to walk barefoot and someone stealing all your shoes.
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@korgie @lightspill @rysiek fuckin love the scrollbars of the 90s
@maypop_neocities @korgie @lightspill 💯
Function over style.
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@rysiek That's the secret, Cap. I only implement infinite scrolling.
@johnduggins "hail Hydra"?
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@lightspill @rysiek Computers Commandments number one: Thou shalt not act as if thou knoweth better than thy user what thy user wants.
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@ailurocrat @dalias @libewa partially, yes. But there were scores of web developers that should have known better, and yet helped implement this.
This is also on them.
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@maypop_neocities @korgie @lightspill 💯
Function over style.
@rysiek @korgie @lightspill nah it just is a good style too. "modern" design is ugly.
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@rysiek @korgie @lightspill nah it just is a good style too. "modern" design is ugly.
@maypop_neocities @korgie @lightspill oh I am with you. Still, if I have to choose...
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Web developers: we are going to go out of our way to hide the scrollbars!
Users: but that makes it difficult to know how much of the text is left to read!
Web developers: don't worry, we'll add a non-standard UI element that signals this in some non-obvious, weird way!
@rysiek Old Web Developers: "where the f**k is the scroll bar??"
Browser developers: "What's your user agent?"
OWD: "Why does that matter? Wait... What did you do?"
BD: "We made it better! And it's all rounded now."
OWD: "Give me back the same UI that I'm developing on! Let me control how it renders. Why are you doing this to us?"
BD: "Here, now there's AI in there, too."
OWD: "..."
BD: "You're welcome."
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Web developers: we are going to go out of our way to hide the scrollbars!
Users: but that makes it difficult to know how much of the text is left to read!
Web developers: don't worry, we'll add a non-standard UI element that signals this in some non-obvious, weird way!
@rysiek yeah, pretty much https://aartaka.me/scrollbar.html
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