Web developers: we are going to go out of our way to hide the scrollbars!
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Web developers: we are going to go out of our way to hide the scrollbars!
Users: but that makes it difficult to know how much of the text is left to read!
Web developers: don't worry, we'll add a non-standard UI element that signals this in some non-obvious, weird way!
@rysiek we'll get to it as soon as we re-implement all basic form functionality in JavaScript.
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yes.. we want scrollbars back! leave scrollbars alone!@bituur_esztreym @rysiek And CONSISTENT bloody scrollbars in terms of both function and appearance!
The browser sorts out the scrollbars on the basis of the preferences set by the user in the OS GUI.
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Web developers: we are going to go out of our way to hide the scrollbars!
Users: but that makes it difficult to know how much of the text is left to read!
Web developers: don't worry, we'll add a non-standard UI element that signals this in some non-obvious, weird way!
@rysiek My bigger gripe with "disappearing scrollbars" is that they can make it very hard to scroll if you are not using either a touchscreen or a mouse with a scroll wheel. If you have to actually click the scrollbar with your cursor then good luck finding it ...
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Web developers: we are going to go out of our way to hide the scrollbars!
Users: but that makes it difficult to know how much of the text is left to read!
Web developers: don't worry, we'll add a non-standard UI element that signals this in some non-obvious, weird way!
@rysiek I mean I literally did that to my emacs my alfernative is line numbers and a fraction of current line vs. total # lines. But I see how the difference is me deciding to walk barefoot and someone stealing all your shoes.
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@korgie @lightspill @rysiek fuckin love the scrollbars of the 90s
@maypop_neocities @korgie @lightspill 💯
Function over style.
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@rysiek That's the secret, Cap. I only implement infinite scrolling.
@johnduggins "hail Hydra"?
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@lightspill @rysiek Computers Commandments number one: Thou shalt not act as if thou knoweth better than thy user what thy user wants.
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@ailurocrat @dalias @libewa partially, yes. But there were scores of web developers that should have known better, and yet helped implement this.
This is also on them.
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@maypop_neocities @korgie @lightspill 💯
Function over style.
@rysiek @korgie @lightspill nah it just is a good style too. "modern" design is ugly.
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@rysiek @korgie @lightspill nah it just is a good style too. "modern" design is ugly.
@maypop_neocities @korgie @lightspill oh I am with you. Still, if I have to choose...
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Web developers: we are going to go out of our way to hide the scrollbars!
Users: but that makes it difficult to know how much of the text is left to read!
Web developers: don't worry, we'll add a non-standard UI element that signals this in some non-obvious, weird way!
@rysiek Old Web Developers: "where the f**k is the scroll bar??"
Browser developers: "What's your user agent?"
OWD: "Why does that matter? Wait... What did you do?"
BD: "We made it better! And it's all rounded now."
OWD: "Give me back the same UI that I'm developing on! Let me control how it renders. Why are you doing this to us?"
BD: "Here, now there's AI in there, too."
OWD: "..."
BD: "You're welcome."
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Web developers: we are going to go out of our way to hide the scrollbars!
Users: but that makes it difficult to know how much of the text is left to read!
Web developers: don't worry, we'll add a non-standard UI element that signals this in some non-obvious, weird way!
@rysiek yeah, pretty much https://aartaka.me/scrollbar.html
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