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  • secretspecter 🚲:fennel:undefined

    #nextcloud and #syncthing and #deltachat are the real revolutionary technologies of recent.

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    secretspecter 🚲:fennel:undefined
    #nextcloud and #syncthing and #deltachat are the real revolutionary technologies of recent. I guess #activitypub too
  • Box464undefined

    I have a Mastodon List of "Group Accounts", which makes for a good timeline of discussions around specific topics.

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    @julian @box464 There's actually already an Android app that allows all this: Raccoon for Friendica (which actually also works for Mastodon).Raccoon for Friendica is a rather unique app, one I'm very fond of, because it perfectly illustrates how the best ideas come from the "contamination" of different environments. Here's an article about Raccoon that should be updated, which I wrote a few weeks after the app's beta release (launched in late August 2024)Raccoon for Friendica was developed by @akesiseli after he had already developed an Android client for Lemmy (Raccoon for Lemmy).When he focused on Friendica, he faced the problem of how to translate Friendica's ability to display group conversations into an app (they're quite visible on Friendica's web interface, though they don't have the clearest interface possible like Lemmy's or forum platforms like NodeBB and Discourse). He ported the "topic view" feature already present in Lemmy's apps to Friendica!Since Raccoon is an app that also works with Mastodon, @akesiseli attempted to "force" Mastodon to have the same interface, and after a few attempts, he succeeded perfectly.Raccoon for Friendica still has a few imperfections (search isn't 100% functional, it still doesn't handle resharing with quoting, and other minor glitches, and feed capture is still a bit slow compared to Tusky and Fedilab), but despite being just over a year old, it's a decidedly mature app. Most importantly, it offers group viewing features that no other app offers. Andβ€”trust me!β€”group viewing isn't the only new feature Raccoon has brought to a social media client!I hope the app's development continues well, although I'm a little concerned: the developer is a bit disappointed that almost no one uses his app... But this is mostly due to the fact that the app has a name that appeals to Friendica users (who are very few) and that even the most established apps for Mastodon suffer from competition from an "official" app!
  • Box464undefined

    First time I’ve heard of Gush!, an activitypub based platform for sharing topical interests for video games.

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    @julian @box464 It is developed by @Tak
  • julianundefined

    Minutes from 4 September 2025 WG Meeting

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    Apologies in advance if I misrepresented anybody or missed any crucial bits of information. Jesse Karmani (jesseplusplus@mastodon.social), Ted Thibodeau Jr. (tallted@mastodon.social, and Julian Lam (julian@activitypub.space) in attendance Julian provided an update on adoption of FEP 7888 Both Piefed and Lemmy have adopted 7888, and will begin publishing resolvable context collections in their next release Jesse opened a PR to Mastodon, which received preliminary approval from Gargron@mastodon.social (ed. it was later merged, rolled back, updated, a new PR opened, which was then merged) This PR is the first of two planned pull requests. The first generates the outgoing context (the same as what Lemmy/Piefed have done recently) The seconds handles incoming contexts and backfills Jesse was asked whether it would conflict with existing reply-tree crawling methods, but the two are complementary. She expects additional discussion before the PR is opened. Julian noted that it would be helpful if statistics/analytics were gathered by the Mastodon team to see how conversation contexts and backfill works at scale; admits that existing implementations and testing has been small scale and may not reflect real-world usage. Julian noted that Lemmy's implementation (nutomic@lemmy.ml) does not paginate their resolvable context implementation. All objects are listed in one OrderedCollection Jesse noted that she followed Mastodon's pagination convention for collections. Context inheritance Julian asked for opinions on whether contexts were inherited in existing implementations. Notes that NodeBB inherits parent context, but checks further up the known parent chain for further contexts Julian admits that not everybody can and should do this, is also not sure anymore whether NodeBB actually does this. Julian notes the ideal implementation would be every object referencing their immediate parent, which would lead to the entire collection referring to the same context collection. Jesse: Decodon inherits immediate parent context only Ted: notes that this is a reinvention of inReplyTo Julian and Jesse note that there are marked differences between crawling the reply chain. A short discussion about how netnews and usenet handled reply chains was had. Julian notes that Lemmy will not inherit context. Every object will point back to its own server's context collection. This was a conscious decision by Nutomic as each instance is meant to consider its own representation of remote content as the canonical representation ActivityPub.Space Julian made a short shout-out to a new site called ActivityPub.Space, meant to be a hub for AP development discussions ("A federated space for ActivityPub discussions so that they don’t just get lost in ephemeral replies") A short double-back to NNTP and how they approach "eventual consistency" Ted: β€œCloud of NNTP servers are all hosts of articles and replies.” Strictly speaking it’s not a reply tree as replies can be inReplyTo multiple parents