I thought Italy was the land of bureaucracy.
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@stefano sent to them ... by snail mail, because fax is so unreliable 🤷🏻
@ricardo luckily, they have an online form (using https) 😆
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@Linkshaender @Ann_in_a @luca I used to do it, many years ago, but it's been a long time since I had to send a signed document this way
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@Linkshaender @Ann_in_a @stefano we need also the sign left by a coffee cup
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@Linkshaender @Ann_in_a @luca I used to do it, many years ago, but it's been a long time since I had to send a signed document this way
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@Linkshaender @Ann_in_a @stefano we need also the sign left by a coffee cup
This would help, too
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I thought Italy was the land of bureaucracy.
An overseas company wants a certificate for my company. I need to go to a specific office to get it and then scan it. I could get the same document online, but it wouldn't be signed. However, it’s a certificate where I declare... so I would just sign it digitally anyway. But no, they want the paper version, scanned, and then sent to them.
It doesn't make any sense.
@stefano The license for one of the software programs I use must be printed, signed, placed in an envelope, and mailed to the research group at a university in Germany; they don't accept faxes or PDFs, only the original. At least they don't require a seal with a ring stamp.
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@stefano The license for one of the software programs I use must be printed, signed, placed in an envelope, and mailed to the research group at a university in Germany; they don't accept faxes or PDFs, only the original. At least they don't require a seal with a ring stamp.
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I thought Italy was the land of bureaucracy.
An overseas company wants a certificate for my company. I need to go to a specific office to get it and then scan it. I could get the same document online, but it wouldn't be signed. However, it’s a certificate where I declare... so I would just sign it digitally anyway. But no, they want the paper version, scanned, and then sent to them.
It doesn't make any sense.
@stefano You could use ImageMagick to get that scanned look: convert -density 90 input.pdf -rotate 0.5 -attenuate 0.2 +noise Multiplicative -colorspace Gray output.pdf (/via https://chaos.social/@jiska/110848328479540118)
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@stefano You could use ImageMagick to get that scanned look: convert -density 90 input.pdf -rotate 0.5 -attenuate 0.2 +noise Multiplicative -colorspace Gray output.pdf (/via https://chaos.social/@jiska/110848328479540118)
@stefano Joking aside, this is called "Schriftformerfordernis" in Germany, and it hampers the goverment's own digitization efforts. In many cases, a manual signature is the only thing that establishes a legally binding document, and a scan of that document is proof of its existence. So the requirement makes sense from a legal viewpoint.
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@stefano Joking aside, this is called "Schriftformerfordernis" in Germany, and it hampers the goverment's own digitization efforts. In many cases, a manual signature is the only thing that establishes a legally binding document, and a scan of that document is proof of its existence. So the requirement makes sense from a legal viewpoint.
@jan I hadn't considered this point of view: scanning it means it exists. In case of problems, you need to provide the original, signed one. Yes, it makes sense.
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@MauroV1968
Sì, ma preferisco sempre l'idea che sia la confederazione a prendersi "cura" di noi.
Anzi se anche Francia e Germania volessero spartirci... 🤷
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@markus was meinst du mit „ich bekomme nicht Bescheid“? Wie würdest du denn gerne informiert werden?
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@mhoye please notify me in 2030 so I can laugh at Zuckerberg and those "experts" once more
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@melon what client do you use? WordPress sends the full html! let‘s improve the UI of your platform by reporting it!
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this is also an excellent illustration of the power that consumers have, when wielded collectively
no one wanted the metaverse and no one used it. now it's gone.
we could make a lotta BS go away like this too, if only...
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@mhoye It was so blindingly obvious, even at the time, that this whole metaverse thing was just a figment of Zuckerberg’s imagination and was absolutely not going anywhere. Historians will write books about this incredible silicon valley bandwagon effect. Or is it just fear of missing out? Cult of personality maybe? @bert_hubert
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@iris do what to the what?
