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@M0KHR @datenwolf yepyep, I think the earliest physical x86 hardware I've personally operated was a sub-ATX 386 and a few 486's besides that. fun toys
@whitequark @M0KHR @datenwolf i learned C on a 33 MHz amd386 with 4 MB of SIMM RAM and i think a 128 MB HDD running dos 5 and win 3.1.
This was circa 1999, so w9x was out, but we kept this box until around 2001 when we got an 800ish MHz pentium 3 running windows mistake edition (very shortly upgraded to XP).
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@whitequark the first one says "Abapter"
@noisytoot @whitequark that's an adapter you use to get enough ram to run SAP
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@whitequark @M0KHR @datenwolf i learned C on a 33 MHz amd386 with 4 MB of SIMM RAM and i think a 128 MB HDD running dos 5 and win 3.1.
This was circa 1999, so w9x was out, but we kept this box until around 2001 when we got an 800ish MHz pentium 3 running windows mistake edition (very shortly upgraded to XP).
@azonenberg @whitequark @M0KHR @datenwolf thank you all for making me feel insanely old. I'm pretty sure I threw a hip out thinking about how my first PC was... literally a 5150 PC. Cassette port and all. Eventually with an expansion chassis and a couple 10MB HD.
Now to go back to figuring out where that 256GB of RAM disappeared to.
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@whitequark @M0KHR @datenwolf i learned C on a 33 MHz amd386 with 4 MB of SIMM RAM and i think a 128 MB HDD running dos 5 and win 3.1.
This was circa 1999, so w9x was out, but we kept this box until around 2001 when we got an 800ish MHz pentium 3 running windows mistake edition (very shortly upgraded to XP).
@azonenberg @whitequark @M0KHR @datenwolf The nineties were such an exciting time if you were into computing. Every time a computer magazine dropped in your mailbox, clock speeds had gone up again. (I learned C on an x86 with 640k RAM and a 30MB HD.)
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@azonenberg @whitequark @M0KHR @datenwolf The nineties were such an exciting time if you were into computing. Every time a computer magazine dropped in your mailbox, clock speeds had gone up again. (I learned C on an x86 with 640k RAM and a 30MB HD.)
@tom_verbeure @whitequark @M0KHR @datenwolf It's funny how everyone else who grew up in the same time period has all these formative memories of playing games on 95/98 etc and I never had that.
I was doodling in 16-bit PBRUSH.EXE and writing C in EDIT.COM
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@whitequark the first one says "Abapter"
@noisytoot @whitequark they left that to prove it was written by a human
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@tom_verbeure @whitequark @M0KHR @datenwolf It's funny how everyone else who grew up in the same time period has all these formative memories of playing games on 95/98 etc and I never had that.
I was doodling in 16-bit PBRUSH.EXE and writing C in EDIT.COM
@azonenberg @tom_verbeure @whitequark @datenwolf
Computing went through a mad pace of change between 1985 and 2000, from 8-bit computers to 64 bit becoming relatively affodable with Alpha chip.
I went from doing BASIC on my Spectrum 48k as a kid to running multi-user systems on Intel/AMD architecture.
Meanwhile, the last 15 years in user-end hasn't that much advanced. Yeah, more cores, more RAM but I've already had more than 4GB RAM on my PC in 2010, and even now that's quite OK with Linux.
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@datenwolf amazing, i haven't seen those before! (i am just old enough to have touched SIMMs irl)
@whitequark @datenwolf those came angled in 2 different directions so you could install 2 of them.
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"how's ram shortage going"
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@whitequark @mxk but I need the other way round
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@azonenberg @tom_verbeure @whitequark @datenwolf
Computing went through a mad pace of change between 1985 and 2000, from 8-bit computers to 64 bit becoming relatively affodable with Alpha chip.
I went from doing BASIC on my Spectrum 48k as a kid to running multi-user systems on Intel/AMD architecture.
Meanwhile, the last 15 years in user-end hasn't that much advanced. Yeah, more cores, more RAM but I've already had more than 4GB RAM on my PC in 2010, and even now that's quite OK with Linux.
@M0KHR @azonenberg @whitequark @datenwolf I think the 486 66DX2 was the first x86 CPU with the core clock decoupled from the external bus (hence the DX2). At the time, I thought that was cheating…
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@whitequark
I prefer the version with a RAID0 from 4 microSD cards -
@RedstoneLP2 @jn @whitequark I recently found an sff thinkcentre in front of an e-waste bin, no ram of course, ddr4 is gold these days so it's possible it was kept by the previous owner. i had some laptop ram to spare, so i did purchase these adapters. i can only use one slot, the other module would not fit due to the presence of the drive cage (and even the one i can use is sort of rubbing against the fan shroud, but it works, so whatever.)
@RedstoneLP2
On second thought, it could have also come from a nearby business, those also sometimes have media destruction policies that involve RAM. (Nobody tell them CPUs have cache and various onboard microcontrollers and stuff have some RAM too.)
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@M0KHR @azonenberg @whitequark @datenwolf I think the 486 66DX2 was the first x86 CPU with the core clock decoupled from the external bus (hence the DX2). At the time, I thought that was cheating…
@tom_verbeure @azonenberg @whitequark @datenwolf
There were shenanigans about bus vs CPU bits (386SX33 and 8088 comes to mind)
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@whitequark @datenwolf those came angled in 2 different directions so you could install 2 of them.
Indeed. That's why I explicitly called out that I used a pair of them. I maybe should have clarified what I meant by "pair".
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@whitequark What's old is new again:
Back when I built my Pentium-1 I carried over several MiB of RAM on SIMM modules to those new-fangled DIMM slots using a pair of SIMM→DIMM adapters:
@datenwolf @whitequark Somewhere around here I have some 30-pin to 72-pin FPM adapters as historical curiosities.
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@RedstoneLP2
On second thought, it could have also come from a nearby business, those also sometimes have media destruction policies that involve RAM. (Nobody tell them CPUs have cache and various onboard microcontrollers and stuff have some RAM too.)
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@ozzelot @jn @whitequark meanwhile i'm surprised when a storage device is actually wiped for once
@RedstoneLP2 @jn @whitequark I'm not saying such companies are around that bin, just saying they exist in general. Probably. They're heard of.
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@whitequark fuck that's depressing… -
@tom_verbeure @whitequark @M0KHR @datenwolf It's funny how everyone else who grew up in the same time period has all these formative memories of playing games on 95/98 etc and I never had that.
I was doodling in 16-bit PBRUSH.EXE and writing C in EDIT.COM
@azonenberg @whitequark @M0KHR @datenwolf I don’t think anything will ever match the hype when Doom was first released. There must semiconductor companies out there whose entire existence is due to the spike in demand for network cards.
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@whitequark @elexia suddenly buying a laptop with soldered ram is both great and awful (great if buying second hand now)
@M0YNG @whitequark @elexia pop off with flathead screwdriver, duct tape onto new board
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