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Spiders do not posess self consciousness, or at least I have never read that they do.
But...
Would a spider know or "know" or recognize a spider web not made by itself or one of its kind? Would a spider get caught in another spider's web?
(Please, do NOT ask "ai" or search engines (I could do that myself, cmon), answer from your own experience/expertise only)
PS: Now I wonder if there are spiders that hunt in packs, I have also never seen that.
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Spiders do not posess self consciousness, or at least I have never read that they do.
But...
Would a spider know or "know" or recognize a spider web not made by itself or one of its kind? Would a spider get caught in another spider's web?
(Please, do NOT ask "ai" or search engines (I could do that myself, cmon), answer from your own experience/expertise only)
PS: Now I wonder if there are spiders that hunt in packs, I have also never seen that.
@afreytes Spiders that HUNT do it always alone, AFAIK, but some do build communal webs.
Also some spiders are spider hunting specialists, so they'll intentionally wander in other spiders webs to try and eat them.
As for more general understanding the structure of webs and whatnot, hard to say....
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Spiders do not posess self consciousness, or at least I have never read that they do.
But...
Would a spider know or "know" or recognize a spider web not made by itself or one of its kind? Would a spider get caught in another spider's web?
(Please, do NOT ask "ai" or search engines (I could do that myself, cmon), answer from your own experience/expertise only)
PS: Now I wonder if there are spiders that hunt in packs, I have also never seen that.
well I just had a pleasant moment imagining how a spider reads any web, even their own. The spoke-and-spiral ones I might understand, but they’re relatively simple. Can they locate tension through the ones that are more cross-connected, do you suppose?
The experiments on this must be very photogenic sometimes…
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well I just had a pleasant moment imagining how a spider reads any web, even their own. The spoke-and-spiral ones I might understand, but they’re relatively simple. Can they locate tension through the ones that are more cross-connected, do you suppose?
The experiments on this must be very photogenic sometimes…
@clew I had not thought about web complexity. Imagine a spider getting lost in another spiders more complex web... Such a thing happens to me everytime I drive anywhere far
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@afreytes Spiders that HUNT do it always alone, AFAIK, but some do build communal webs.
Also some spiders are spider hunting specialists, so they'll intentionally wander in other spiders webs to try and eat them.
As for more general understanding the structure of webs and whatnot, hard to say....
@VileLasagna Solitary hunting is what I have always read. It makes me kinda sad TBH
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@VileLasagna Solitary hunting is what I have always read. It makes me kinda sad TBH
@afreytes Even communal webbing is generally uncommon. Vast majority are solitary. They're just too hungry =P
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@afreytes Spiders that HUNT do it always alone, AFAIK, but some do build communal webs.
Also some spiders are spider hunting specialists, so they'll intentionally wander in other spiders webs to try and eat them.
As for more general understanding the structure of webs and whatnot, hard to say....
@VileLasagna JRR Tolkien LIED TO ME. Do they at least speak the language of darkness that the one ring allows you to understand?
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@VileLasagna JRR Tolkien LIED TO ME. Do they at least speak the language of darkness that the one ring allows you to understand?
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@VileLasagna Bilbo could understand them in the Mirkwood. I don't remember if they understood him ^^'
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Spiders do not posess self consciousness, or at least I have never read that they do.
But...
Would a spider know or "know" or recognize a spider web not made by itself or one of its kind? Would a spider get caught in another spider's web?
(Please, do NOT ask "ai" or search engines (I could do that myself, cmon), answer from your own experience/expertise only)
PS: Now I wonder if there are spiders that hunt in packs, I have also never seen that.
is part of your assumption that humans can detect consciousness of other living beings?
the other parts of your toot are out of my wheelhouse, but this one bit is something i work at, namely human ways of knowing. and i can, with a mediocre english reading / writing man's degree of confidence, posit that living beings are aware they exist in ways humans can and cannot know.
humans are some of the youngest species on earth, spiders are more than 200 million years older than humans. any assertions we make are trivial compared to the knowing of spiders today. until a few thousand years ago europeans asserted the sun rotated around the earth. heck today english speakers claim an average / most common number calculator can 'learn', 'think' and 'hallucinate'.
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@VileLasagna Bilbo could understand them in the Mirkwood. I don't remember if they understood him ^^'
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is part of your assumption that humans can detect consciousness of other living beings?
the other parts of your toot are out of my wheelhouse, but this one bit is something i work at, namely human ways of knowing. and i can, with a mediocre english reading / writing man's degree of confidence, posit that living beings are aware they exist in ways humans can and cannot know.
humans are some of the youngest species on earth, spiders are more than 200 million years older than humans. any assertions we make are trivial compared to the knowing of spiders today. until a few thousand years ago europeans asserted the sun rotated around the earth. heck today english speakers claim an average / most common number calculator can 'learn', 'think' and 'hallucinate'.
@melioristicmarie Humans cant even define intelligence, thats why they confuse stochastic generation of character strings as "AI"
Ive never read (and otherwise cannot presume to know!) that spiders posses self conciousness. But I'll tell you this, I dont assume that lacking consciousness means spiders are a lesser species as a whole
Asking: "How do spiders know which webs are theirs?"
Would make even more replyguys come out to argue with the question instead of answering in good faith
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@melioristicmarie Humans cant even define intelligence, thats why they confuse stochastic generation of character strings as "AI"
Ive never read (and otherwise cannot presume to know!) that spiders posses self conciousness. But I'll tell you this, I dont assume that lacking consciousness means spiders are a lesser species as a whole
Asking: "How do spiders know which webs are theirs?"
Would make even more replyguys come out to argue with the question instead of answering in good faith
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Spiders do not posess self consciousness, or at least I have never read that they do.
But...
Would a spider know or "know" or recognize a spider web not made by itself or one of its kind? Would a spider get caught in another spider's web?
(Please, do NOT ask "ai" or search engines (I could do that myself, cmon), answer from your own experience/expertise only)
PS: Now I wonder if there are spiders that hunt in packs, I have also never seen that.
I recall from the 2013 movie "Spiders" that "insects, like spiders"* form colonies. I don't recall if the colonial spiders hunt together though.
They wouldn't film it if it wasn't true!
* That is what the scientist said.
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#Ethics
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Early 2026 is a very weird time to be an open source maintainer.
On the one hand, the burden of codebase maintenance has dropped dramatically. Small teams with long todo lists now have the ability to accomplish more than ever before. On the other hand, the dynamics of the software industry are rapidly changing, and some of the foundations open source projects built upon are looking increasingly shaky.
Any open source project that achieves a degree of success will at some point face the reality of a competing company taking your open source code and using it to compete with you.
Substack has – at various points – wholesale copied and pasted significant chunks of Ghost's source code into its own product.
Open source maintainers have been fighting this sort of thing for a while with increasingly restrictive licenses, or keeping certain parts of the development stack private, like the test suite.
"If you want to use our code, you have to follow our rules."
But the dictating of the rules has largely been built upon a premise that code is intrinsically valuable because it's a scarce resource. Difficult to maintain. Expensive to write.
AI is now rapidly overturning that premise, as evidenced by Cloudflare this week, who took a competitor's open source codebase and cloned it in the space of a few days into an entirely new product:
How we rebuilt Next.js with AI in one weekOne engineer used AI to rebuild Next.js on Vite in a week. vinext builds up to 4x faster, produces 57% smaller bundles, and deploys to Cloudflare Workers with a single command.
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If anyone can point Claude at an open source codebase and have it rewritten from scratch, without actually using any of the original code, what does that mean for software licenses? More specifically: Do software licenses mean anything?
Some will debate whether this is even a thing – with a lot of hand waving about "vibecoding slop" – but the trajectory is clear to see.
In December, Simon Willison wrote about porting an HTML parsing library from Python to JavaScript, raising these legal/ethical concerns as a thought exercise. Two months later, we have a publicly traded company shamelessly cloning the entire product of a competitor purely for the sake of strategically undermining them.
In some ways this feels like the start of software's Studio Ghibli moment.
But it would be a mistake, I think, to imagine that only open source software will be susceptible to being cloned.
I don't imagine it will be long before any sufficiently successful proprietary product with a public-facing interface can be reverse-engineered and rebuilt by a motivated competitor with access to frontier models. What took Cloudflare a week with an open source codebase will likely soon take a week to do with a closed one.
LLMs, it turns out, are already pretty good at reverse engineering.
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Which is an interesting wrinkle.
What happens when we get to a point where closed products can just as easily be cloned and released as open source?
When Stallman launched the free software movement in 1983, it was a reaction to a world where software was closed, proprietary, and wielded as an instrument of control.
Open source was built upon the idea that anyone should be able to study, modify, replicate and share software. Free from the grasp of corporations and copyrights to prevent it.
In a strange way, I'm beginning to wonder if AI might end up fulfilling that vision more completely than open source ever did.
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