Does the open web require competitive markets?
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Does the open web require competitive markets?
I do want to say, however, that crafts people at the very least should be able to offer their wares for sale.
The worst aspects of the Internet come from the centralized commercial platforms. We could have a world of cities, providing Internet access, web, hosting services and online storage and processing.
They could be organizing in the same way the fediverse is. Every resident and local business gets access.
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Does the open web require competitive markets?
@evan Yes, but democracy, if it has markets, also requires markets to be competitive, lest powerful actors get so powerful that democracy itself is functionally lost.
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I do want to say, however, that crafts people at the very least should be able to offer their wares for sale.
The worst aspects of the Internet come from the centralized commercial platforms. We could have a world of cities, providing Internet access, web, hosting services and online storage and processing.
They could be organizing in the same way the fediverse is. Every resident and local business gets access.
@GhostOnTheHalfShell Interesting. Would you call a situation where every city provides services to citizens a "competitive market"?
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Does the open web require competitive markets?
@evan Yes. We need a combination of publicly funded basic infrastructure and an economy of small to medium sized companies, that offer services for open-source.
Instead of big-tech, we need big-market.
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Does the open web require competitive markets?
@evan competition is a lie
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@evan competition is a lie
@burnoutqueen how so?
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@burnoutqueen how so?
Just look at how everything is monopolized, for one
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Just look at how everything is monopolized, for one
@burnoutqueen that's not competitive, then
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Does the open web require competitive markets?
@evan I'm no. Human societies have worked fine without competitive markets before and I don't see why a society with an open web would require it.
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@evan I'm no. Human societies have worked fine without competitive markets before and I don't see why a society with an open web would require it.
@malte so, you prefer what we have now? Monopolies with rent-seeking enshittification?
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Does the open web require competitive markets?
@evan no, not at all. But, people need money to live, do things, make things happen. Not much but some. This is the dilemma of the hippies, punks, ravers, any alt culture. Alt tech is the same.
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@evan no, not at all. But, people need money to live, do things, make things happen. Not much but some. This is the dilemma of the hippies, punks, ravers, any alt culture. Alt tech is the same.
@DrPen i think it's interesting how much people are focusing on the "markets" part of this question, rather than the "competitive" part.
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Does the open web require competitive markets?
@evan I most certainly don't have any answers, but it's a super interesting discussion. Somewhere in there lies the question of interoperability (if I'm using it correctly). I we could all connect and "talk to" FB users using other tools/services then users would have choice (competition would exist). We could have groups for our local community and invite to birthdays without being "slaves" to FB. And if we didn't like the algo, we'd use a tool/service with a different algo (or no algo).
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Does the open web require competitive markets?
@evan I'd say yes, we need competition and regulation.
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@DrPen i think it's interesting how much people are focusing on the "markets" part of this question, rather than the "competitive" part.
@evan well, its not a trick question. Where's there's money, there's competition.
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@evan well, its not a trick question. Where's there's money, there's competition.
@DrPen that's not true at all! Many of the Web's most important services are run as oligopolies or monopolies.
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Does the open web require competitive markets?
@evan the open web is in some ways antithetical to competitive markets (so no) and it needs a bit of government help in order to avoid being taken over by capitalists.
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@DrPen that's not true at all! Many of the Web's most important services are run as oligopolies or monopolies.
@evan competition isnt only the obvious antitrust kind, its the stabs in the back, the bribery, the buying out /destroying the competition, those oligarch bros try to out do each other. Even the space rockets! Academia is packed with competitive salary and job title hunters.
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@evan competition isnt only the obvious antitrust kind, its the stabs in the back, the bribery, the buying out /destroying the competition, those oligarch bros try to out do each other. Even the space rockets! Academia is packed with competitive salary and job title hunters.
@DrPen which is why I linked the Wikipedia article on competition in markets.
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@evan the open web is in some ways antithetical to competitive markets (so no) and it needs a bit of government help in order to avoid being taken over by capitalists.
@anca what? How is a monopoly web sector "open"? I don't understand your point.
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@gumnos that's a beautiful post. Thank you for sharing it
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https://codeberg.org/amadaluzia/theo.el
Appending to the history after the package was published onto Codeberg, I ended up in a call where me and @izder456 were talking about theo.el. I believe in that call, it was also reposted in the OpenBSD room on Matrix. I also remember being suggested to put it on MELPA, so that is exactly what I did.
After creating the pull request and fixing all of the issues that stopped it from being pushed into MELPA, it couldn't make it on as it was a pretty repetitive package, and there were about 5 other `fortune`-esque packages with much more customisability. However, I now have a better package because of MELPA's guidelines, and I believe that I can still give attention to the package, even if not through MELPA.
That's why I wanted to talk about it here, because maybe you are interested in having a fortune package for your GNU Emacs. If so, and assuming you have straight.el, you can simply copy the following snippet into your init.el. After that, you should have it installed.
https://gist.github.com/amadaluzia/be96e325326a9d66619543af410e4bf4
Let me know how the package goes for you. I would love to improve the GNU Emacs ecosystem further, as a GNU Emacs user.
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And here we are
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@marxistvegan Does the fact that the Wikipedia article for competition was linked in the poll suggest that the emphasis was more on competition than on markets?
