Tldr; I love my job, hate the Netherlands, want to move somewhere warmer but where and how?
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@lalalasombra Yeah the 145.000 km one might be too much. 100k I can live with.
@Gina @lalalasombra 145k is nothing for a delivery van. Basically new. But it might not be the real mileage, turning back the mileage is extremely common. Most don't overdo it, maybe 50k or so. Look at the rest of the thing. Does that driver seat look like 145k or like 250k? Is the suspension knackered? The DPF clogged? Exhaust rusting away?
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@Gina I assume you have the right driving license for these things.
Those are essentially converted delivery vans. Generally very reliable, but everything hinges on the engine. Look them up, get one that runs half a million km, not all do. The rest is just a box that should not leak and have the conveniences you desire (bed, galley, toilet, the showers suck anyways). It will break and you will fix it or pay twice for having it fixed.
You got the rest right, part fun adventure and part ghetto and a bonus part of "you can't stay here we're calling the cops".
And getting very excited about finding a manhole you can pry open with a hook so you can dump your toilet tank into the hole without having to carry your collected excreations around in a sloshy tank.
@yngmar Oh man this has me really excited about leaving my fancy apartment with heated floors, robot vacuum and massive bathroom. 😂
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@yngmar Oh man this has me really excited about leaving my fancy apartment with heated floors, robot vacuum and massive bathroom. 😂
@Gina Freedom has its price ;-)
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Kay, I've found a few options in the €35k to €45k range. What do we think?
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@Gina i think if you are worried about the cost, you should first try the train or flying to your preferred destinations. You can rent a car locally.
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@yngmar Oh man this has me really excited about leaving my fancy apartment with heated floors, robot vacuum and massive bathroom. 😂
@Gina I can tell you from liveaboard experience, there is a definite progression in this life.
You start out inexperienced and spending too much money on the wrong things and then you have some adventures and learn a lot about a huge variety of things and people and places and in the end you never bother with a lifejacket anymore, know all the good places to repair, all the beautiful, free hangouts away from the noobs and you learnt how to fix anything. The newcomers look at you with a mix of admiration and wrinkled noses. All your clothes are worn paper thin and have holes and you know this doesn't matter as long as you keep one set of fancy clothes for when you have to briefly return to the world of ignorance to do some paperwork.
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Kay, I've found a few options in the €35k to €45k range. What do we think?
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@Gina Diesels at those mileages should still have a lot of life left, but in the UK I'd say that you want to be checking their MOT histories - see what sort of advisories and fails they've had over the years (notable rust, wobbles, etc), and whether they've had new belts yet as they're probably due if not, but... It doesn't seem like that's a thing you can look up over there? 🤨
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The saga continues. 🥲
We've established that I need to move abroad. I still don't know where to. And I have two cats to bring along.
The problem is that buying a campervan will easily erase 1/3rd to 1/2 of my savings. And I need those savings to buy a house or start a business. It would be much cheaper if I just knew where I wanted to live and moved there, but noooo. 🙄
I'm worried about spending all my money on travelling and then not having any left to move.
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@Gina "Come to Brasil"
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@jannem @Gina I LOVE Japan, the people, the food, the aesthetic, a lot of the culture.. but my experience living there was that if you planned to put down roots and integrate you would have to reckon with the gender-essentialist and extreme hierarchical nature of Japanese society. And it's a society that exerts suffocating social control. But my knowledge is 25 years out of date, so I'm curious to hear from Janne if it has changed.
@holly @Gina
So, things have indeed gotten better gender-wise (but I'm grading on a curve here). It depends on where you are and where you work. And LGBT issues have never become a political or religious punching ball.But, I'm a middle-aged straight white north-European married academic that speaks Japanese. I may be a foreigner and immigrant but I certainly do it on easy mode. My perspective and experience is not that of people with other backgrounds.
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Kay, I've found a few options in the €35k to €45k range. What do we think?
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@Gina You can través by cargo and bring a tent, and spend some nights at houses and otjers at campsites.
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@Gina @caffetino but both Italy and Spain are big and there aren't just the cities. An English friend of mine bought property in Umbria in the country. A Spanish friend of mine bought a house for 40k€ (!!). In general, if you stay away from big cities and from too touristic places, there are good bargains to be made: I heard of big houses with big gardens available at 150k which is basically a steal (especially considering what I had to pay for an apartment...)
@lminiero @Gina @caffetino There is a big emptyness un some áreas of Spain, where houses can be ver y cheap and there's little (i mean few, not small) people around. You have to probably live away from the beach, though.
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Kay, I've found a few options in the €35k to €45k range. What do we think?
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@Gina The thing with all such models is that they are pretty high maintenance. It's basically all caravan-trailer-type materials, meaning it's heavily weight-optimized which comes at the cost of durability. My parents have a similar model, and it's shocking (to me anyway) how much they spend each year on repairs alone. Not sure if this is helpful 😀 .
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@Gina The thing with all such models is that they are pretty high maintenance. It's basically all caravan-trailer-type materials, meaning it's heavily weight-optimized which comes at the cost of durability. My parents have a similar model, and it's shocking (to me anyway) how much they spend each year on repairs alone. Not sure if this is helpful 😀 .
@jeroen94704 this is very helpful actually, thank you! I'm considering smaller models as well, like buscampers instead of camper campers.
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@jeroen94704 this is very helpful actually, thank you! I'm considering smaller models as well, like buscampers instead of camper campers.
@Gina Yeah, subjectively buscampers are sturdier (no direct experience though).
Of course you can also buy a used box-van and convert it yourself. That's on my bucket-list for "someday" 😀