Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
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@afewbugs Great thread. I think sometimes about how many thousands of lives are saved every day by the cleaning staff at hospitals, but they never get recognition for it, since Preventing a Terrible Thing isn’t nearly as exciting as Fixing Terrible Thing (that maybe could have been prevented)
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Oh and before anyone says "Oh but women are good at recurring maintenance tasks because they're naturally good at multitasking": 1) saying this will earn you a block. 2) No, we're not, we had to learn to be. That's why I need a task manager to tell me to keep on top of things like that. If you're willing to put in your share of the work to maintain a healthy, functional environment both at home and at work you can learn too
Ah, replied to a post which was removed before I could press reply. Anyway, here's the comment:
I think, to some degree and in a work environment, it's also because maintenance tasks and day to day operations stuff is not typically valued in an organization. Some people - and they're often men - don't do work which won't get them recognition from higher-ups.
I say this as someone who prefers to do maintenance work and operations stuff, and who likes to clean up and make sure my area of responsibility is in tip top shape even where people don't typically look.
But most people don't think about the cleanup and maintenance phase of an IT project, so they leave their mess everywhere. Which is frankly somewhere between annoying and infuriating.
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs I struggled with this too. For stuff that is literally every week at set times I now have a chores calendar group with reminders.
For other stuff I have tasks, and when 'completing' I essentially snooze a custom time. You never get the satisfaction of closing it, unless you want to copy it again and again all manually 😥
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@afewbugs @gumnos I’m not sure that this will be our long-term solution, but it sounds close enough to right that I’m spending some time looking at it, since it will mesh nicely with the work I did on my shop calendar to remind me of the “big one-off tasks” in the shop, but which also displays the “glue” from our calendar, so I don’t lose track of when I’m supposed to haul the trash to the street for pickup. https://write.as/davepolaschek/a-calendar-for-the-shop
Hah, your e-ink setup is much fancier than mine (I just have a ~4am cron-job that sends my daily agenda to my phone-specific email account so that I have it on my phone). But nice work!
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If you build a task manager without the facility to do recurring tasks that tells me a) you're not the one doing the recurring maintenance tasks and b) you either don't recognise the importance of maintenance tasks or you haven't even noticed that they're being done around you to allow you to do the big one off production of a European open source task manager, say.
Come on, it's 2026. Do better men. And it is mostly men.
@afewbugs i think to a certain extent it's just *easier* to make a task manager that only handles one-off tasks. a lot easier.
which is to say, there may (only may) be no misogeny here, just a complete lack of ability to actually *define* the problem before they try to solve it…
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs Yes, but not directly.
Nextcloud itself doesn't support recurring tasks (or didn't when I last used, a couple of years ago, but it seems the issue still remains), and this issue is something that has surfaced a few times over the years.
There is, however, a workaround, which I've used since I encountered this particular issue.
You'll need to use your phone to set up recurring tasks and mark them complete.
And you'll need to use DavX5 and Tasks to do it (not sure that there's an equivalent for Apple devices, those are the two programs I use on Android).
When you use those two combined, Tasks will correctly recreate the recurring task on Nextcloud.
Hope this helps!
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Hah, your e-ink setup is much fancier than mine (I just have a ~4am cron-job that sends my daily agenda to my phone-specific email account so that I have it on my phone). But nice work!
@gumnos Yeah, part of this is getting away from the phone, as well as just getting away from Apple in general.
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If you build a task manager without the facility to do recurring tasks that tells me a) you're not the one doing the recurring maintenance tasks and b) you either don't recognise the importance of maintenance tasks or you haven't even noticed that they're being done around you to allow you to do the big one off production of a European open source task manager, say.
Come on, it's 2026. Do better men. And it is mostly men.
@afewbugs would love to see more support for recurring tasks! Blaming men for the lacking feature seems kinda weird though. I see a lot of seemingly male users willing to pay for this feature: https://help.nextcloud.com/t/repeating-tasks/225106/21. Have you tried implementing that yourself instead of demanding it from men? I guess many people also just have other ways to keep track of these things, such as recurring calendar events with notifications, alarms, reminder apps, or they're good at remembering them.
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@afewbugs would love to see more support for recurring tasks! Blaming men for the lacking feature seems kinda weird though. I see a lot of seemingly male users willing to pay for this feature: https://help.nextcloud.com/t/repeating-tasks/225106/21. Have you tried implementing that yourself instead of demanding it from men? I guess many people also just have other ways to keep track of these things, such as recurring calendar events with notifications, alarms, reminder apps, or they're good at remembering them.
@afewbugs I had looked into this a while ago and from a technical perspective the WebCAL and iCalendar standards which are used by Nextcloud and many others support recurring tasks. However, support for it seems to depend on both the server and the client and many lack support for it. I'm not really sure why; I assume it's just difficult to implement and/or not enough people asked about it. But if you use the right client it should work with Nextcloud.
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Because if there isn't I am developing a very strong suspicion that NextCloud developers aren't the ones who do the housework in their households
@afewbugs
For chores, I quite like "x days after completed." I used to use a great app called "our home" for this, but it just stopped working one day. It seemed to have no business model. -
Oh and before anyone says "Oh but women are good at recurring maintenance tasks because they're naturally good at multitasking": 1) saying this will earn you a block. 2) No, we're not, we had to learn to be. That's why I need a task manager to tell me to keep on top of things like that. If you're willing to put in your share of the work to maintain a healthy, functional environment both at home and at work you can learn too
@afewbugs Literal expert on multitasking here. Women aren't better at multitasking.
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs the web interface doesn't have the ability, but some clients do. i use @jtx, but due to the lack of support in the web interface i don't use recurring tasks at all (and i would really love to). while for some it might be ok to just use a compatible client, for me it's not enough if it doesn't work in the web interface
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Oh and before anyone says "Oh but women are good at recurring maintenance tasks because they're naturally good at multitasking": 1) saying this will earn you a block. 2) No, we're not, we had to learn to be. That's why I need a task manager to tell me to keep on top of things like that. If you're willing to put in your share of the work to maintain a healthy, functional environment both at home and at work you can learn too
@afewbugs im so sorry for your replies, but also thanks for beating the bushes for the blockables. some real bad takes in here hah
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Oh and before anyone says "Oh but women are good at recurring maintenance tasks because they're naturally good at multitasking": 1) saying this will earn you a block. 2) No, we're not, we had to learn to be. That's why I need a task manager to tell me to keep on top of things like that. If you're willing to put in your share of the work to maintain a healthy, functional environment both at home and at work you can learn too
See also: "But women naturally notice mess and dirt in a way men don't." No, women learn to notice because we're shamed for not noticing and keeping on top of things in a way men aren't. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0049124119852395
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@afewbugs the web interface doesn't have the ability, but some clients do. i use @jtx, but due to the lack of support in the web interface i don't use recurring tasks at all (and i would really love to). while for some it might be ok to just use a compatible client, for me it's not enough if it doesn't work in the web interface
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If any @nextcloud developers happen to be reading this and want a feminist perspective, actually especially if they're reading and don't want a feminist perspective: there are two types of tasks, one off achievement tasks like build a website, write an article, paint a room where once it's done it's done, and recurring maintenance tasks: do the laundry, change the sheets, water the plants.
@afewbugs Hi! I'm not a developer or anything of the kind, but I love to read unexpected gender perspectives. This one's brilliant. @nextcloud
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs I can set recurring tasks on my Nextcloud calendar task list via 3rd party apps like Reminders on iOS or Evolution via CalDAV
I'm not sure if there's a way to do it through the web interface, if that's what you're asking though!
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Oh and before anyone says "Oh but women are good at recurring maintenance tasks because they're naturally good at multitasking": 1) saying this will earn you a block. 2) No, we're not, we had to learn to be. That's why I need a task manager to tell me to keep on top of things like that. If you're willing to put in your share of the work to maintain a healthy, functional environment both at home and at work you can learn too
Gawd, the shit I got when I waded into a "discussion" on Instagram about how "men are so helpless and useless and they need to be given a LIST of chores before they will help" and I chimed in: "Actually I have ADHD and if my ex had given me a specific, detailed list instead of just telling me to 'look around and see what needs done' and then getting MAD that I didn't do what HE WANTED DONE maybe I wouldn't have this huge emotional trauma" and it turned into: "YOU'RE JUST ENABLING LAZY MEN AND GIVING THEM EXCUSES, ADHD ISN'T A GOOD EXCUSE, EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW TO CLEAN"… …um, no, not everyone does. And it's really fucking sexist to assume that WOMEN ESPECIALLY are "born with" this knowledge and skill set and little "habit tracker" already programmed in.
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See also: "But women naturally notice mess and dirt in a way men don't." No, women learn to notice because we're shamed for not noticing and keeping on top of things in a way men aren't. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0049124119852395
So we've strayed a very long way from Nextcloud's task manager, but the older I get the more I see "Who does the dishes after the revolution?" as one of the first questions that should be asked in any progressive space. I've seen at permaculture camps where the men wander off to form a drumming circle while the women set up the cooking rotas and compost station. I've seen it at the meetings where the men stand up and give inspiring speeches while the women organise drinks and take the minutes
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs This is the #1 most requested (liked) feature in all of Nextcloud: https://github.com/nextcloud/tasks/issues/34
And there's even a monetary bounty, let's hope it's coming up soon!
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