Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
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@slothrop thank you. Yes that thread escalated rather dramatically didn't it😂
@afewbugs well you do have a point!
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@afewbugs @nextcloud I'm not entirely sure what nextcloud is? but I use todoist for my recurring tasks and it works perfectly, also telegram recently added the ability to schedule a recurring message, and as I also use telegram in my household for to do lists that has also been invaluable
@wolfie thank you! I'm actually using Todoist at the moment, but looking into European alternatives wherever possible and as I'm already using NextCloud for file management I thought I'd take a look at their task manager and see if it was a workable alternative. Looks like it isn't though as probably at least half of what I use it for is recurring tasks
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@afewbugs There's one thing that I can somewhat, only a bit, accept as an excuse for talking about NextCloud in particular: It operates on CalDAV Standards and the Tasks part of that ... sucks badly. Like, terrible. I've not been happy with any of CalDAV synced Tasks because not only is support shoddy, but for exactly the reason you give.
However, NextCloud could – as any one of the stakeholders – try to push for something different or find ways to enable this use case better.
Case in point: What do people use for such tasks? Alarms are... hard to manage. Calendar entries are overwhelming. I try paper but I forget too often.
@ljrk I use Todoist which works really well, but as I'm looking at European alternatives and already use NextCloud for file storage I thought I'd take a look at their task manager
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@afewbugs I applaud the larger point you’re making!
Quite prosaically, I’m using Reminders in Nextcloud Calendar for recurring tasks. Works very well for me.
@afewbugs seeing the other replies here reminds to point out that I’m using the Nextcloud calendar mostly (but not exclusively) through my iPhone and whatever Gnome has for a calendar application. (Galendar??)
I’m rather stunned to learn that the Nextcloud Calendar app doesn’t let you set recurring reminders. This strongly supports your argument.
Also, WTF?
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@afewbugs seeing the other replies here reminds to point out that I’m using the Nextcloud calendar mostly (but not exclusively) through my iPhone and whatever Gnome has for a calendar application. (Galendar??)
I’m rather stunned to learn that the Nextcloud Calendar app doesn’t let you set recurring reminders. This strongly supports your argument.
Also, WTF?
@afewbugs maybe we should have a thread on dark patterns in software, but for sexism
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@afewbugs There's one thing that I can somewhat, only a bit, accept as an excuse for talking about NextCloud in particular: It operates on CalDAV Standards and the Tasks part of that ... sucks badly. Like, terrible. I've not been happy with any of CalDAV synced Tasks because not only is support shoddy, but for exactly the reason you give.
However, NextCloud could – as any one of the stakeholders – try to push for something different or find ways to enable this use case better.
Case in point: What do people use for such tasks? Alarms are... hard to manage. Calendar entries are overwhelming. I try paper but I forget too often.
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@ljrk I use Todoist which works really well, but as I'm looking at European alternatives and already use NextCloud for file storage I thought I'd take a look at their task manager
cron can probably do everything we need, yesno?
lemmas: cron is nearly a language itself
cron was written by maintainers
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If you build a task manager without the facility to do recurring tasks that tells me a) you're not the one doing the recurring maintenance tasks and b) you either don't recognise the importance of maintenance tasks or you haven't even noticed that they're being done around you to allow you to do the big one off production of a European open source task manager, say.
Come on, it's 2026. Do better men. And it is mostly men.
Sometimes a bunch of men get away from all the boring women and discover there are still dishes!
Thus arises class, caste, military rank…
(joking not joking)
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
And my favorite subtle recurrence, a reminder $timespan after each completion.
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs An excellent thread. Somehow women never seem to fail to know (e.g.,) how to use a washing machine whereas a great many men struggle. The "emotional work" of organising a household (and keeping track, making sure children get to school, that appointments aren't missed and that they are fed and clothed is most definitely work). I am fortunate to have a son in whose household he does all of that (and works from home) while his wife works elsewhere.
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
I didn't find a way that I liked to do recurring tasks in NextCloud. I use Superproductivity now. That one has the benefit that recurring tasks don't just recur, they pile up. The next task doesn't simply replace the previous one.
For an ADHD chaos goblin like me, it's handy to see yesterday's "water plants" and "gym" alongside today's "dust hallway" and "gym". I'm nothing if not flaky on bad days. With the "pile" I can remember to do the things on good days.
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I didn't find a way that I liked to do recurring tasks in NextCloud. I use Superproductivity now. That one has the benefit that recurring tasks don't just recur, they pile up. The next task doesn't simply replace the previous one.
For an ADHD chaos goblin like me, it's handy to see yesterday's "water plants" and "gym" alongside today's "dust hallway" and "gym". I'm nothing if not flaky on bad days. With the "pile" I can remember to do the things on good days.
I can also get a nudge that something is wrong if I see multiple self-care tasks piling up.
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So we've strayed a very long way from Nextcloud's task manager, but the older I get the more I see "Who does the dishes after the revolution?" as one of the first questions that should be asked in any progressive space. I've seen at permaculture camps where the men wander off to form a drumming circle while the women set up the cooking rotas and compost station. I've seen it at the meetings where the men stand up and give inspiring speeches while the women organise drinks and take the minutes
@afewbugs Aye, indeed.
And so have all of us.
Any male person denying this observation is being dishonest with someone, quite likely starting with himself.
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs @nextcloud do you know? ⬆️
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I just checked on the latest NextCloud. Nope, no support for recurring tasks at all.
The Calendar, however, has support for repeating an event daily, weekly, multiple times a week, on a day of the month, or annually. And the notes field is about the equal of the Tasks description field.
It doesn't let you mark it as completed, though, or assign it to someone else.
Next I'll look in whatever they have for project management.
@dashdsrdash @afewbugs Recurring tasks (as opposed to recurring calendar events) is probably the one feature I *really* miss in Nextcloud. Yes you can kinda-sorta work around it with calendar events, but *really?*
Even the most basic version, like "repeat X days/weeks/months after completion/original due date", would probably cater to the upper 90s % of the need. On mark as completed, create a new one and copy that metadata. It *shouldn't* be all that difficult, and it *would* be *very* useful!
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I can also get a nudge that something is wrong if I see multiple self-care tasks piling up.
Also, here's the source
https://github.com/super-productivity/super-productivity
It's on GitHub, but nobody's perfect.
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@dashdsrdash @afewbugs Recurring tasks (as opposed to recurring calendar events) is probably the one feature I *really* miss in Nextcloud. Yes you can kinda-sorta work around it with calendar events, but *really?*
Even the most basic version, like "repeat X days/weeks/months after completion/original due date", would probably cater to the upper 90s % of the need. On mark as completed, create a new one and copy that metadata. It *shouldn't* be all that difficult, and it *would* be *very* useful!
@mkj @dashdsrdash @afewbugs and it sounds like since the calendar app already handles this, maybe adding it to the task app would mean "just" sharing the code?
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Hell I even see it in queer spaces where the women, femmes and enbies are the ones organising booking the venue and bringing home made cake after checking everyone's dietary requirements in advance. The first step towards dividing the tasks that bring the glory and the tasks that just have to be done up fairly is just noticing how they're divided now
@afewbugs Yeah, I've seen the cycle a lot in transfem spaces and Black spaces and both. Build a space, maintain the space, others come in and complain the space isn't equal enough, burn out and leave the space to build a new one. Rinse repeat.
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Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?
@afewbugs thank you for posting this. It never even occurred to me that it might not support recurring tasks, since nextcloud in general seems to have the basics covered. I've been adding new one off tasks there as a precursor to moving everything there. Guess I won't be doing that 😟 @RadtkeJCJ
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@mkj @dashdsrdash @afewbugs and it sounds like since the calendar app already handles this, maybe adding it to the task app would mean "just" sharing the code?
@mdione Even better (and I was unaware of this), apparently the backend already supports the necessary functionality https://help.nextcloud.com/t/repeating-tasks/225106/18 so really *all* that would be needed is some form of user interface support.
Which makes it even weirder that this hasn't been implemented despite it being a highly requested feature for *years*.
Come on @nextcloud, what's the hold-up!? I'd happily throw some money into the pot too if we can get this feature.
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@stefano crossing my fingers for you...
and cannot wait to get to Ferrara.. 2 more months
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@cstross @future_upbeat
Mostly but not entirely.
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@cstross
Also since cryogenic freezing a brain destroys the structure of an already dead brain (basically deteriotated), the folk paying for that are being scammed.I agree it's nice info for SF world building.
Presumably they'd have to replace the blood of a living mouse with a special fluid to preserve the structure?
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@keila maybe I could help? https://www.behance.net/gallery/80041417/Vector-illustrations can send more works if you'd like
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@cstross "the wiring is the computer" is not too surprising. Years ago playing w/ algorithms for FPGA, needed to invent a bit-string perfect hash table. One way of doing a perfect hash function/table involves a matrix and offset, H = Mx + v, but our math needed to be boolean (AND, XOR), a "1" coefficient was a wire, and if we wanted a one-cycle hash index, then we needed no more 1's in a row than maximum inputs to an FPGA XOR. So, a sparse boolean matrix. The wiring was the computation..
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@stefano Waiting?? I see green grass, clearly spring is already there! ;)
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@cstross Does that make your work Science Fact-ion instead of Science Fiction?
