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@hp "It really wasn't an ordeal. All PCs kind of sucked back then, at least I knew why mine sucked. 😅"
That's a great quote :D
@nina_kali_nina @hp It was kind of an ordeal... Writing modelines for xf86config and chat scripts for your dialup to work, there was a lot of tedium for things that worked out of the box. And on a laptop? Yeah...
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I did not expect a Linux system from 2001 to be that... feature-rich. Bugs aside, it is pretty impressive. Not only Knoppix 2.0's KDE 2 is quite usable, it ships - again - with both KOffice and Open Office, and both Konqueror and Mozilla. There is XMMS, there is GNU IMP, there is even Acrobat Reader 4.0. There's even Python and Java.
Go on, give this ancient (25 years old!) Linux distro a go: https://archive.org/details/LinuxTag - the file you're looking for is linuxtag2001.iso
If you're using Qemu, make sure to set RAM to 256 megs or less, use cirrus VGA, and go through the "expert" mode to configure your keyboard and X11. On 86Box, I recommend emulating Pentium 2 and Cirrus 5446.
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Phew, what a thread it was! I hope you liked it :) And if you liked it, please share the love.
I think my biggest motivation for this thread was:
- Hey, look, 25 year ago Linux was already pretty great and usable. Imagine what it can do now! The sky is the limit. -
P.S. If you find Knoppix 1.4, please let me know~
@nina_kali_nina
I used it with a 2001 Toshiba Laptop in this ancient times and it worked very well.
I remember the fancy arcade shooter in Galaxians style 😁 -
I did not expect a Linux system from 2001 to be that... feature-rich. Bugs aside, it is pretty impressive. Not only Knoppix 2.0's KDE 2 is quite usable, it ships - again - with both KOffice and Open Office, and both Konqueror and Mozilla. There is XMMS, there is GNU IMP, there is even Acrobat Reader 4.0. There's even Python and Java.
Go on, give this ancient (25 years old!) Linux distro a go: https://archive.org/details/LinuxTag - the file you're looking for is linuxtag2001.iso
If you're using Qemu, make sure to set RAM to 256 megs or less, use cirrus VGA, and go through the "expert" mode to configure your keyboard and X11. On 86Box, I recommend emulating Pentium 2 and Cirrus 5446.
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Phew, what a thread it was! I hope you liked it :) And if you liked it, please share the love.
I think my biggest motivation for this thread was:
- Hey, look, 25 year ago Linux was already pretty great and usable. Imagine what it can do now! The sky is the limit. -
P.S. If you find Knoppix 1.4, please let me know~
@nina_kali_nina By October, KDE will be thirty years old...
I started using Linux in 1992 or 1993, but definitely before my first child was born in January 1994. By end 1995, it was my primary OS, and those screenshots, well, I've seen and used all of that, and it was great to see them again!
While I'm still working on the free software application I started hacking on in 2003, I do sometimes miss those giddy days of experiments and unbridled ambition.
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@nina_kali_nina By October, KDE will be thirty years old...
I started using Linux in 1992 or 1993, but definitely before my first child was born in January 1994. By end 1995, it was my primary OS, and those screenshots, well, I've seen and used all of that, and it was great to see them again!
While I'm still working on the free software application I started hacking on in 2003, I do sometimes miss those giddy days of experiments and unbridled ambition.
@halla I'm curious to hear if you have any ideas on what could bring back the giddy days of experiments and unbridled ambition for FOSS
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@dgelessus this is very nice to know! Interestingly, Bing and Google didn't find anything when I searched for "ubuntu morphix". Multi-language search can give so much leverage...
@nina_kali_nina It's more just luck that my country speaks one of the 2 languages whose Wikipedia mentions this fact :) Here in Germany, putting "ubuntu morphix" into any search engine naturally shows this Wikipedia article as one of the top results, and at least DDG even highlights the relevant sentence in the text preview.
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@nina_kali_nina It's more just luck that my country speaks one of the 2 languages whose Wikipedia mentions this fact :) Here in Germany, putting "ubuntu morphix" into any search engine naturally shows this Wikipedia article as one of the top results, and at least DDG even highlights the relevant sentence in the text preview.
@nina_kali_nina For researching things like this, it's unfortunate that no search engine lets you easily say "give me results in ALL languages, I'll figure it out, don't worry". Even DDG with the country switch off seems to filter by rough region/language based on GeoIP, at least until you reach the second page of results.
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I did not expect a Linux system from 2001 to be that... feature-rich. Bugs aside, it is pretty impressive. Not only Knoppix 2.0's KDE 2 is quite usable, it ships - again - with both KOffice and Open Office, and both Konqueror and Mozilla. There is XMMS, there is GNU IMP, there is even Acrobat Reader 4.0. There's even Python and Java.
Go on, give this ancient (25 years old!) Linux distro a go: https://archive.org/details/LinuxTag - the file you're looking for is linuxtag2001.iso
If you're using Qemu, make sure to set RAM to 256 megs or less, use cirrus VGA, and go through the "expert" mode to configure your keyboard and X11. On 86Box, I recommend emulating Pentium 2 and Cirrus 5446.
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Phew, what a thread it was! I hope you liked it :) And if you liked it, please share the love.
I think my biggest motivation for this thread was:
- Hey, look, 25 year ago Linux was already pretty great and usable. Imagine what it can do now! The sky is the limit. -
P.S. If you find Knoppix 1.4, please let me know~
@nina_kali_nina KNOPPIX was *great*. And underlines for me how much of our current computing world is a solution in search of a problem.
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@elly @nina_kali_nina Amazing. I didn't even know of, or hadn't ever come across Linux in High School. 😿
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@nina_kali_nina For researching things like this, it's unfortunate that no search engine lets you easily say "give me results in ALL languages, I'll figure it out, don't worry". Even DDG with the country switch off seems to filter by rough region/language based on GeoIP, at least until you reach the second page of results.
@dgelessus I managed to replicate this Wikipedia snippet in DDG by saying "lang:de" but uhhhh 😭
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@lazysupper @dahukanna so, in a long conversation, the number of people who can see the responses gets smaller and smaller over time?
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Just visible to Alice unless she accepts the post. And she controls the visibility on her posts.
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@dahukanna
Oh... I need to change my answer. 😅
Other: the dark blue-grey.
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@ori I think this is where I got on the merry-go-round.
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@monnier you replied in the wrong thread!
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@evan I think so. I think in an ideal world, I would prefer an audience that expands, but in the real world where people use followers-only to feel safe online, it is important that only followers appear downstream of a followers-only post. At least, that’s what I would expect absent some other cue.
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@evan But Bob may want to reply something that he doesn't want to divulge to all of Alice's followers (he likely doesn't know them all) so he may want to explicitly shrink the set to the intersection
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Sadly my server blocks newsie.social...
