Is it OK to reverse engineer the recipes for restaurant dishes so you can make them at home?
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@swelljoe so, is it possible for something to be unrelated to copyright and still not OK?
@evan of course. But, copyright was a secondary piece of evidence for my assertion about recipes, not the primary one. Copyright cannot be claimed on a recipe because culturally, recipes were considered in the public domain long before copyright existed. Humanity throughout history thinks you should be allowed to make nice meals.
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@virtuous_sloth why indeed! Did you come up with any ideas?
@evan I have no need to; I answered yes.
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@virtuous_sloth why indeed! Did you come up with any ideas?
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@evan I have no need to; I answered yes.
@virtuous_sloth complex minds sometimes try to stretch their boundaries and see things from another point of view.
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@virtuous_sloth complex minds sometimes try to stretch their boundaries and see things from another point of view.
@evan Oh don't worry, I'm aware of the other point of view. I know it too well. I know it well enough to know of the absolute destruction it has done.
So if I choose not to entertain it by speaking it, it is not because of lack of curiosity.
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@evan Well... Why reverse engineer? Everytime I had asked I was given the recipe gladly. For dishes, cocktails, deserts... Social engineering, if you want to call it that way. :)
@jesterchen this is definitely an interesting line of reasoning! Question back: is there a significant difference between asking for the recipe, and reverse-engineering it?
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@evan can't even guess what, for example. Chef will be upset? ;)
@liilliil well, in other contexts, calling someone a racist slur is not OK, even if it's not prohibited by copyright law. So, "there's no copyright problem" does not automatically mean that the activity is OK. An extreme example but hopefully we've established that copyright is not the be-all and end-all of ethics.
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@liilliil well, in other contexts, calling someone a racist slur is not OK, even if it's not prohibited by copyright law. So, "there's no copyright problem" does not automatically mean that the activity is OK. An extreme example but hopefully we've established that copyright is not the be-all and end-all of ethics.
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@jesterchen this is definitely an interesting line of reasoning! Question back: is there a significant difference between asking for the recipe, and reverse-engineering it?
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@evan Oh don't worry, I'm aware of the other point of view. I know it too well. I know it well enough to know of the absolute destruction it has done.
So if I choose not to entertain it by speaking it, it is not because of lack of curiosity.
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@virtuous_sloth complex minds sometimes try to stretch their boundaries and see things from another point of view.
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@evan
And coincidentally this...
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Decided on Slint, after a think on the subject. I've started rewriting, and I guess it won't be terribly painful, but it's going to be at least another week before I can call the thing done.
Seems like a lot just to avoid packaging Qt, but if you think so, you've probably never tried to package Qt (where all deps are bundled, so the user doesn't need to install anything other than the package).
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@evan I have no need to; I answered yes.
