Is it OK to reverse engineer the recipes for restaurant dishes so you can make them at home?
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Another aspect is personal experience. Eating beignets and chicory coffee at Cafe du Monde is a holistic experience. Smoked meat at Schwartz's. A Taqueria Cancun burrito. Letting the food be as special and rare as your visits to those restaurants can enhance the whole experience. Extracting the food from the context makes both less precious.
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@Perrin42 it is!
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@evan I think the reason everyone is so hung up on copyright is that most (all?) ethical systems have no objection to copying. So for most people, the reason copying might be unethical is if it would involve breaking the law.
@mpjgregoire @lizzard @lmorchard "most (all?) ethical systems have no objection to copying"?!? That's not true at all!
Copying another artist's style, someone else's jokes, a friend's hairstyle, a classmate's essay, are all considered in poor taste or even unethical.
In almost any situation where original thinking could be done, copying is considered shoddy and second-rate.
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@evan Considering Schwartz's isn't even real smoked meat anymore (they use an electric smoker) you're getting downright Baudrillardian in this.
@ianrogers did Baudrillard also like Schwartz's?
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@mpjgregoire @lizzard @lmorchard "most (all?) ethical systems have no objection to copying"?!? That's not true at all!
Copying another artist's style, someone else's jokes, a friend's hairstyle, a classmate's essay, are all considered in poor taste or even unethical.
In almost any situation where original thinking could be done, copying is considered shoddy and second-rate.
@evan my gut reaction: the cooking example is completely different from the examples you just gave.
All your examples have one thing in common: trying to reap the benefits without putting in the effort. The restaurant situation is only comparable if the copycat is also a restaurant cook.
But if you're cooking a restaurant recipe at home, no harm is done to the professional cook, and no "unfair" advantage is gained for the home cook.
And then, knowing the recipe doesn't spare you all the effort: Even if you know the theoretical recipe, a lot of effort will still go into the learning and doing. I have the whole recipe library of a confectioner - but none of the skills, and not her professional kitchen, so I still can't do most of the things in that collection.
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@evan my gut reaction: the cooking example is completely different from the examples you just gave.
All your examples have one thing in common: trying to reap the benefits without putting in the effort. The restaurant situation is only comparable if the copycat is also a restaurant cook.
But if you're cooking a restaurant recipe at home, no harm is done to the professional cook, and no "unfair" advantage is gained for the home cook.
And then, knowing the recipe doesn't spare you all the effort: Even if you know the theoretical recipe, a lot of effort will still go into the learning and doing. I have the whole recipe library of a confectioner - but none of the skills, and not her professional kitchen, so I still can't do most of the things in that collection.
"the cooking example is completely different from the examples you just gave."
Agreed. The examples I gave were for @mpjgregoire 's assertion that nobody ever has any problem with copying except for copyright. I strongly disagree.
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