Another small victory today.'nA salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now".
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@stefano Good for you!
I just lost that battle - we are moving from onprem Exchange to 365 because the CEO wants all those shiny cloud integrations for their calendar.@thechris I know what it means 😔
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano@bsd.cafe not so small victory I think!
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@stefano@bsd.cafe not so small victory I think!
@oldsysops exactly. every single bit counts.
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano
"Holds all the cards?"
U should have told him: "Yes True, but only if we don't know how to self host and rely on a corporate selling pitches to decide what's good for us" -
@stefano
"Holds all the cards?"
U should have told him: "Yes True, but only if we don't know how to self host and rely on a corporate selling pitches to decide what's good for us"@vivekanandanks It's roughly what I said, but in an extremely subtle way. The client understood it perfectly, the salesperson did not.
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano ah, the dreaded “real world” which has its wars of “running”:/(
Congrats
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@stefano ah, the dreaded “real world” which has its wars of “running”:/(
Congrats
@mms thank you. Yes, exactly. The "real world"
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano Nice, well done!
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A third question (actually, I think two questions) was about protocols for democratic participation in coops. We have occasionally used polls for getting the temperature of the membership on CoSocialCa, and I know that social.coop uses loom.io's features for voting on some issues. But at least with CoSocial, we haven't invested too much time or effort into cryptographic, anonymising voting systems. We get most of our voting done by show of hands!
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@matz
Anch'io
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Sono molto tentata, per fare un esperimento, di sponsorizzare uno stato whatsapp e vedere cosa succede, ma non ho molta voglia di dare soldi a zio mark.
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Another question was why the links I gave for national cooperative organisations to help with forming a cooperative did not have information about forming Fediverse coops. I think there needs to be more information about forming Fediverse coops, and I think that's something we want to do at the SWF.
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@Lucatermite @filippodb @spettacoli mi sa che passarono di qua https://mastodon.uno/@fucinafibonacci/114589575425896045
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The first was, everybody knows you for ActivityPub, and where was the part about ActivityPub in this talk? It's a fair question! But I have more involvement in the Fediverse than just in the protocol; in my role at SWF I also get involved in the social and economic layer of the Fediverse. The title of the talk was "Cooperative Social Networks", though, so I don't feel like I was unclear about the topic of the conversation.
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@francina1909 @ro e comunque anche certe pagine satiriche negli ultimi giorni hanno subito una deriva inaccettabile. Sta uscendo tutta lammrda possibile dal profondo di tutti.
