Another small victory today.'nA salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now".
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@stefano Congratulations, very well done!
Where you notably ahead of the sales person regarding the clients trust by way of earlier collaborations or where your arguments simply _that_ good or both? ;)
It would be really interesting to know the specifics of such a real world example of a FOSS-powered E-Mail suite. Which software packages on what servers? Which software is going to be used in what fashion by the users?This post is deleted! -
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@stefano how does one do that nowadays ? I feel like it used to be possible to do that back in the day … but I thought it was well nigh impossible nowadays to avoid email going into some black hole if not on some well known service? And i am a nerd! Lol. Is there a good write up anywhere ?
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@stefano there is even an open source exchange-like server. Will you propose that or a more standard solution with postfix, imap etc?
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presenting technically correct information, without a financial gain bias, isn't guaranteed to work every time but it's definitely worth trying every time. sometimes, the right thing happens.
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@CyReVolt @stefano This is the kind of info a beginner like me needs to understand about email servers and OpenBSD. Could you comment on completeness and correctness of this guide?
https://www.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/12aydcc/beginners_guide_to_simple_selfhosted_email_on/
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@stefano Good, you won a battle, but the war is still here to stay. Here, we (all people with the same ideas about) lost the battle in our national research institution. The prospect is that those monopolies will start to accept email only from qualified/registered peers, citing spam as the excuse, not too far in the future.
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@stefano Good for you!
I just lost that battle - we are moving from onprem Exchange to 365 because the CEO wants all those shiny cloud integrations for their calendar.This post is deleted! -
Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano@bsd.cafe not so small victory I think!
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@stefano@bsd.cafe not so small victory I think!This post is deleted!
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano
"Holds all the cards?"
U should have told him: "Yes True, but only if we don't know how to self host and rely on a corporate selling pitches to decide what's good for us" -
@stefano
"Holds all the cards?"
U should have told him: "Yes True, but only if we don't know how to self host and rely on a corporate selling pitches to decide what's good for us"This post is deleted! -
Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano Great job Stefano :-) great to see that in Italy we have a strong tribe of *BSD fellowers :-)
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@stefano Great job Stefano :-) great to see that in Italy we have a strong tribe of *BSD fellowers :-)
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Another small victory today.
A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.
I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.Because people need explanations, not brochures.
@stefano "It's all about the cards..." Well, that depends if you care to play the card game they lay out or prefer something completly different alltogether.
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