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  4. Another small victory today.'nA salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now".

Another small victory today.'nA salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now".

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  • Francesco P Lovergine :debian:undefined Francesco P Lovergine :debian:

    @stefano Good, you won a battle, but the war is still here to stay. Here, we (all people with the same ideas about) lost the battle in our national research institution. The prospect is that those monopolies will start to accept email only from qualified/registered peers, citing spam as the excuse, not too far in the future.

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    @gisgeek unfortunately, this will likely happen. "Security reasons" is the best way to close their own systems. Even if most of the spam I'm receiving is from legit Google or MS accounts as rspamd is filtering the others out.

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    • Chrisundefined Chris

      @stefano Good for you!
      I just lost that battle - we are moving from onprem Exchange to 365 because the CEO wants all those shiny cloud integrations for their calendar.

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      @thechris I know what it means 😔

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      • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

        Another small victory today.

        A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

        I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
        The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

        Because people need explanations, not brochures.

        #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

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        @stefano@bsd.cafe not so small victory I think!
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        • oldsysopsundefined oldsysops
          @stefano@bsd.cafe not so small victory I think!
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          @oldsysops exactly. every single bit counts.

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          • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

            Another small victory today.

            A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

            I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
            The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

            Because people need explanations, not brochures.

            #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

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            @stefano
            "Holds all the cards?"
            U should have told him: "Yes True, but only if we don't know how to self host and rely on a corporate selling pitches to decide what's good for us"

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            • Vivekanandan KS :nixos:undefined Vivekanandan KS :nixos:

              @stefano
              "Holds all the cards?"
              U should have told him: "Yes True, but only if we don't know how to self host and rely on a corporate selling pitches to decide what's good for us"

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              @vivekanandanks It's roughly what I said, but in an extremely subtle way. The client understood it perfectly, the salesperson did not.

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              • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                Another small victory today.

                A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

                I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
                The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

                Because people need explanations, not brochures.

                #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

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                @stefano ah, the dreaded “real world” which has its wars of “running”:/(

                Congrats

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                • mms :runbsd: :emacs: :c64:undefined mms :runbsd: :emacs: :c64:

                  @stefano ah, the dreaded “real world” which has its wars of “running”:/(

                  Congrats

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                  @mms thank you. Yes, exactly. The "real world"

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                  • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                    Another small victory today.

                    A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

                    I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
                    The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

                    Because people need explanations, not brochures.

                    #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

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                    @stefano Nice, well done!

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                    • Stefano Marinelliundefined Stefano Marinelli

                      Another small victory today.

                      A salesperson had almost convinced a client to move their email from 365 to Google because "they hold all the cards now". I stepped in and suggested they keep their email on servers that they control instead. The salesperson almost mocked me, treating me like a "nerd" who doesn't understand how the world works.

                      I was happy to be a nerd, if necessary, to explain the pros and cons of the solution to the client.
                      The result? The salesperson was politely thanked and "sent home", and I'm now evaluating some details of the new mail server, which, by the client's choice, will be based on OpenBSD.

                      Because people need explanations, not brochures.

                      #OwnYourData #OpenBSD #RunBSD

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                      @stefano Great job Stefano :-) great to see that in Italy we have a strong tribe of *BSD fellowers :-)

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                      • JaKundefined JaK

                        @stefano Great job Stefano :-) great to see that in Italy we have a strong tribe of *BSD fellowers :-)

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                        @jak we try 😉

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