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What's the current state of XMPP and OpenID Connect?

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    RE: https://mstdn.social/@rysiek/116007605131589165#Signal is down. Time to learn #distributed #instantMessenger such as (in no particular order): #SimpleX, #XMPP such as #Conversations, , #DeltaChat, #Matrix (i.e. #Element or #FluffyChat)
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    @griesgram @debacle Der Punkt ist das wir bei WhatsApp -> Signal keine übertragbaren Fähigkeiten lernen. Bei Quicksy können wir langsam, nach und nach lernen: Hey guck mal du kannst auch mit Leuten chatten die Monal oder Snikket benutzen. Hey du möchtest Quicksy auf dem Desktop nutzen? Wusstet du das du dich mit Dino in dein Quicksy Account einloggen kannst?
  • what clients for #xmpp do people use

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    @jules dino, gajim for GNU/Linux.Conversations for Android.Monal for iOS.profanity as TUI application.
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    xmpp is not "one standard" it's an extensible mess and no two people use the same client/server combination, leading to some kind of factorial explosion of mutually incompatible software. there are over five hundred XEPs and any given project has a unique view of which ones are "necessary" and which are "supported" and which are "deprecated" and which ones you should go to jail for even reading.xmpp has xeps for systems administration, internet of things shit, service discovery, and a million other things that should never have been shoved into a chat protocol, while the xeps that are intended to fix the actual issues that affect users are "deferred" because it's a hell of a lot easier to invent an entire new use case for xmpp than it is to fix any problems with existing xeps.this, combined with the excessively verbose markup, means that starting from scratch has two incredibly attractive benefits: one, you don't have to learn this tremendous bureaucratic protocol maze, and two, just about any wire format you can think of is going to perform better than xmpp over slow or intermittent network connections, which are the majority of internet connections.