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  • Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined This user is from outside of this forum
    Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined This user is from outside of this forum
    Christine Lemmer-Webber
    wrote last edited by cwebber@social.coop
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    Is this right? That *tomorrow* they're going to start denying, in some way or another, X gender markers at US borders / on US passports? https://www.gtlaw-insidebusinessimmigration.com/u-s-customs-and-border-protection-cbp/cbp-enforces-binary-sex-codes-and-enhanced-us-passport-validation-in-apis/

    It's not quite clear what they're going to end up doing. Will they "infer" a binary gender, or will they deny the validity of the passport?

    EDIT: source seems to indicate they aren't supposed to penalize holder? https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/2025-07/clp_bulletin_executive_order_on_m-f_gender_20250707.pdf

    EDIT: Maybe not https://mstdn.isometry.group/@asa/115367846071505495 https://ferral.cat/objects/2b43f418-01ae-490d-9857-fa6026a1c306

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    • Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined Christine Lemmer-Webber

      Is this right? That *tomorrow* they're going to start denying, in some way or another, X gender markers at US borders / on US passports? https://www.gtlaw-insidebusinessimmigration.com/u-s-customs-and-border-protection-cbp/cbp-enforces-binary-sex-codes-and-enhanced-us-passport-validation-in-apis/

      It's not quite clear what they're going to end up doing. Will they "infer" a binary gender, or will they deny the validity of the passport?

      EDIT: source seems to indicate they aren't supposed to penalize holder? https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/2025-07/clp_bulletin_executive_order_on_m-f_gender_20250707.pdf

      EDIT: Maybe not https://mstdn.isometry.group/@asa/115367846071505495 https://ferral.cat/objects/2b43f418-01ae-490d-9857-fa6026a1c306

      Jaeundefined This user is from outside of this forum
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      @cwebber Seems pretty clear they will block people with X markers from entering or leaving the United States. The booking details *must* match the passport, but the booking details can only have an M or F. So if your passport has an X: new passport or no transit

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        @cwebber Seems pretty clear they will block people with X markers from entering or leaving the United States. The booking details *must* match the passport, but the booking details can only have an M or F. So if your passport has an X: new passport or no transit

        Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined This user is from outside of this forum
        Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined This user is from outside of this forum
        Christine Lemmer-Webber
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        @considermycat what about people coming back from travel, inside or outside the US?

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        • Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined Christine Lemmer-Webber

          Is this right? That *tomorrow* they're going to start denying, in some way or another, X gender markers at US borders / on US passports? https://www.gtlaw-insidebusinessimmigration.com/u-s-customs-and-border-protection-cbp/cbp-enforces-binary-sex-codes-and-enhanced-us-passport-validation-in-apis/

          It's not quite clear what they're going to end up doing. Will they "infer" a binary gender, or will they deny the validity of the passport?

          EDIT: source seems to indicate they aren't supposed to penalize holder? https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/2025-07/clp_bulletin_executive_order_on_m-f_gender_20250707.pdf

          EDIT: Maybe not https://mstdn.isometry.group/@asa/115367846071505495 https://ferral.cat/objects/2b43f418-01ae-490d-9857-fa6026a1c306

          Hrefna (DHC)undefined This user is from outside of this forum
          Hrefna (DHC)undefined This user is from outside of this forum
          Hrefna (DHC)
          wrote last edited by
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          @cwebber My understanding is that this is not what has been generally claimed: they aren't rejecting the passports, they are requiring the _airlines_ to select "M" or "F" in their records that they report to CBP.

          This will create confusion and delays and increased scrutiny, but the passport remains valid for transit through the checkpoint itself.

          Of course how this will manifest in practice remains to be seen.

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          • Hrefna (DHC)undefined Hrefna (DHC)

            @cwebber My understanding is that this is not what has been generally claimed: they aren't rejecting the passports, they are requiring the _airlines_ to select "M" or "F" in their records that they report to CBP.

            This will create confusion and delays and increased scrutiny, but the passport remains valid for transit through the checkpoint itself.

            Of course how this will manifest in practice remains to be seen.

            Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined This user is from outside of this forum
            Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined This user is from outside of this forum
            Christine Lemmer-Webber
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            @hrefna Ok, I hope that's what it is.

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            • Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined Christine Lemmer-Webber

              Is this right? That *tomorrow* they're going to start denying, in some way or another, X gender markers at US borders / on US passports? https://www.gtlaw-insidebusinessimmigration.com/u-s-customs-and-border-protection-cbp/cbp-enforces-binary-sex-codes-and-enhanced-us-passport-validation-in-apis/

              It's not quite clear what they're going to end up doing. Will they "infer" a binary gender, or will they deny the validity of the passport?

              EDIT: source seems to indicate they aren't supposed to penalize holder? https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/2025-07/clp_bulletin_executive_order_on_m-f_gender_20250707.pdf

              EDIT: Maybe not https://mstdn.isometry.group/@asa/115367846071505495 https://ferral.cat/objects/2b43f418-01ae-490d-9857-fa6026a1c306

              Stewart Russellundefined This user is from outside of this forum
              Stewart Russellundefined This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cwebber Yes, sadly. From tomorrow, US CBP is rejecting any passport containing [^MF] in the gender identifier field as incomplete. The airline will have to resubmit with an inferred value before the passenger can board.

              The Canadian travel advisory for the USA says: "… You might face entry restrictions in countries that do not recognize the “X” gender identifier." — https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/united-states

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              • Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined Christine Lemmer-Webber

                Is this right? That *tomorrow* they're going to start denying, in some way or another, X gender markers at US borders / on US passports? https://www.gtlaw-insidebusinessimmigration.com/u-s-customs-and-border-protection-cbp/cbp-enforces-binary-sex-codes-and-enhanced-us-passport-validation-in-apis/

                It's not quite clear what they're going to end up doing. Will they "infer" a binary gender, or will they deny the validity of the passport?

                EDIT: source seems to indicate they aren't supposed to penalize holder? https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/2025-07/clp_bulletin_executive_order_on_m-f_gender_20250707.pdf

                EDIT: Maybe not https://mstdn.isometry.group/@asa/115367846071505495 https://ferral.cat/objects/2b43f418-01ae-490d-9857-fa6026a1c306

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                Carolynundefined This user is from outside of this forum
                Carolyn
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                @cwebber Another reason to stop travelling to the US. I have always thought the bathroom bans made it unsafe for all women, this just underlines that. :(

                And this also affect airlines, not just border. So much empathy for the Americans who did not vote for this.

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                • Carolynundefined Carolyn

                  @cwebber Another reason to stop travelling to the US. I have always thought the bathroom bans made it unsafe for all women, this just underlines that. :(

                  And this also affect airlines, not just border. So much empathy for the Americans who did not vote for this.

                  Scoutundefined This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @CStamp @cwebber

                  Thank you for the empathy, Neighbor. 🙏

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                  • Scoutundefined Scout

                    @CStamp @cwebber

                    Thank you for the empathy, Neighbor. 🙏

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                    @ScruffyJunco @cwebber Frankly, I am terrified that our right has been taking notes from your right and are making too many inroads. It seems too may, particularly those lacking education, like being given permission to be their worst selves. It's a fight we are all in, like it or not. Human rights are human rights or they're not. :(

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                    • Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined Christine Lemmer-Webber

                      Is this right? That *tomorrow* they're going to start denying, in some way or another, X gender markers at US borders / on US passports? https://www.gtlaw-insidebusinessimmigration.com/u-s-customs-and-border-protection-cbp/cbp-enforces-binary-sex-codes-and-enhanced-us-passport-validation-in-apis/

                      It's not quite clear what they're going to end up doing. Will they "infer" a binary gender, or will they deny the validity of the passport?

                      EDIT: source seems to indicate they aren't supposed to penalize holder? https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/2025-07/clp_bulletin_executive_order_on_m-f_gender_20250707.pdf

                      EDIT: Maybe not https://mstdn.isometry.group/@asa/115367846071505495 https://ferral.cat/objects/2b43f418-01ae-490d-9857-fa6026a1c306

                      asaundefined This user is from outside of this forum
                      asaundefined This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @cwebber this looks like the primary souce. it seems to say people with X passports can use either binary marker: https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/2025-07/clp_bulletin_executive_order_on_m-f_gender_20250707.pdf

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                      • asaundefined asa

                        @cwebber this looks like the primary souce. it seems to say people with X passports can use either binary marker: https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/2025-07/clp_bulletin_executive_order_on_m-f_gender_20250707.pdf

                        Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined This user is from outside of this forum
                        Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined This user is from outside of this forum
                        Christine Lemmer-Webber
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                        @asa Ok this is helpful. I updated the post, thank you!

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                        • Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined Christine Lemmer-Webber

                          @asa Ok this is helpful. I updated the post, thank you!

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                          @cwebber I believe "carrier" means the airline, not the passport holder, so I wouldn't be *too* reassured

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                            @cwebber I believe "carrier" means the airline, not the passport holder, so I wouldn't be *too* reassured

                            Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @asa ah.... hm.

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                            • Christine Lemmer-Webberundefined Christine Lemmer-Webber

                              @asa ah.... hm.

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                              @cwebber @asa yeah, that’s how i read it too. the airline won’t be penalized for putting in a value that doesn’t match the passport.

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                                @cwebber @asa yeah, that’s how i read it too. the airline won’t be penalized for putting in a value that doesn’t match the passport.

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                                @cwebber @asa the canadian gov also issues a travel advisory https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-united-states-travel-warning-1.7648381

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