The knight with that old dragon fightsTwo days incessantly
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The knight with that old dragon fights
Two days incessantly.
Walter Crane, from "Spenser's Faerie Queene," vol. 1 by Edmund Spenser, London: 1894 #Illustrations #art https://www.oldbookillustrations.com/illustrations/knight-old-dragon/ -
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@aeva @aud @SnoopJ (Not that I am saying that Iraq was anywhere _near_ as justified as US participation in WWII was, or indeed that we should not look critically at Dresden and Nagasaki as hideous and unjustiifed war crimes that should never be repeated in an otherwise on-balance utilitarian positive effort)
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@aeva @aud @SnoopJ the closest we got to a real "victory" in the last dozen or so conflicts was in Iraq 2, and that's because it looked the most like a WWII-style conflict. For example, de-ba'athification could be the same kind of qualified success that denazification was. The jerks are still around but they are mostly prevented from being *that* kind of jerk any more, and will be for maybe 75 more years.
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My daughter just yelled "shark attack" and threw a blahaj at me.
Clearly we've trained her well
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@aeva @aud @SnoopJ You couldn't have an armistice with the concept of self-rule, have the Vietnamese stay in place, to be ruled by the French, and promise that all future generations would be satisfied with the terms of this arrangement. You definitely couldn't have that kind of surrender *after the French already gave up*. So the problem with the US is not so much that we "lose" wars, as that our conflicts are not even legible to our war machine any more, and haven't been for a century
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@aeva @aud @SnoopJ well that's really my main point: that's kinda what *WWII* was, that's what a global existential conflict between developed powers with strong ideological commitments is, but it is not what "war" has been historically and it sure as shit wasn't what the US wars in Korea or Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan were. Germans could accept an armistice, (mostly) renounce naziism, and stay in Germany, where they were, being ruled by other Germans; the war could be "won" and end
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