Well fucking shit motherfuckers.

[psf@oldbytes.space]

@mdhughes ED WILL NOT CORRUPT YOUR PRECIOUS BODILY FLUIDS!!

[glitzersachen@hachyderm.io]

@mdhughes

> What was that other new Mac code editor?

E-mac-s. Clue is in the name.

[aud@fire.asta.lgbt]

@mdhughes@appdot.net @siegel@mastodon.social fuuuuuuu

so does anyone know what stance Helix takes on this?

https://helix-editor.com/

[glitzersachen@hachyderm.io]

@gotofritz @mdhughes @siegel

No. There is no over-the-top countermeasure that could be reasonably classified as insane at this point. It's all stops out now. You'll thank us later.

Or maybe not, because you will still pine for the age when people tried to outsource all genuinely human activities (like thinking, poetry, music, painting and drawing) to un-thinking machines.

Frankly that's just possible. In the trade we call it the "the AI hangover" (or better: We will call it). It's ordinary withdrawal and nothing that cannot be fixed with bog standard therapy.

(Though, frankly, we won't be so forgiving with the tech bros: It will be at least labor camp for them).

#Butlerian_jihad_now

[mdhughes@appdot.net]

@aud Helix looks clean, but I wasn't really into their terminal-only setup; when/if they can do GPU-backed windowing I'd be a lot more interested.

[maaneeack@noc.social]

@mdhughes I started running through https://viewsourcecode.org/snaptoken/kilo/index.html the other day to make/learn about text editors. I was using ecode's appimage, but I have vscodium installed from flathub too. A lot of the time I just use Kate though.

[aud@fire.asta.lgbt]

@mdhughes@appdot.net Thanks. I was looking myself and can't seem to find any evidence of LLM code in it, which, great! I was hoping to find whether they've taken any specific stance on "LLM contributions", but I can't seem to find any evidence on it...

They are apparently uninterested in doing any LLM integrations in the core editor (leaving that up to plugins) itself, but that isn't necessarily the same thing as rejecting LLM generated code. I might ask myself, honestly.

[aud@fire.asta.lgbt]

@mdhughes@appdot.net welp, logged into my rarely used GH account to ask: https://github.com/helix-editor/helix/discussions/15408

hopefully that is... calm enough to not invite getting dogpiled by LLM boosters. I really just want a "yes, no, maybe, haven't decided, don't care", one way or another. I am long past the point of wanting to debate this stuff with people...

[ra@mstdn.social]

@mdhughes what happened to bbedit? That used be a thing, rght?

[mdhughes@appdot.net]

@Ra I do use BBEdit but really only for plain text, markdown, sometimes Python or shell scripts, anything with complex syntax (I do a lot of JS & Scheme) doesn't highlight well in it. Even MD sometimes I have to page up, page down to get it to reflow.

And for code my fingers have 35+ years of vi. I'm not changing that before I die.

[ddlyh@topspicy.social]

@mdhughes
Hopefully Busybox VI is unaffected?
@siegel

[kaleissin@wandering.shop]

@dfstarshine @mdhughes Search is so shit now of you look for "vim without ai" you only get "vim with ai".

[acb@mastodon.social]

@mdhughes @cstross @siegel BSD vi is still a thing that exists (even on Linux)

[khleedril@cyberplace.social]

@mdhughes @siegel Surely more than one person will have the wherewithal to fork the project at a point before the slop started?

[lemmus@social.vivaldi.net]

@mdhughes @Ra I have vile installed alongside vim now... (No, not emacs with vile bindings, actual vile. https://invisible-island.net/vile/ )

[js@mastodon.nl]

@mdhughes Bram’s no doubt rolling over in his grave. Has “:help uganda” now changed to “:burn workld with csam slop” too?

Anyway, bbedit’s fine. For as long as it lasts (it consumes energy too, and the AI overlords insatiability will trump that at some point no doubt)

[m3t00@app.wafrn.net]

always cat and grep and friends in a terminal. no, feel your pain. habits die hard.

[landa@graz.social]

@mdhughes Well, that's not how I envisioned the Editor Wars to end…
@siegel

#editorwars

[kianryan@oldbytes.space]

@mdhughes
This is disappointing.
@siegel

[graydon@canada.masto.host]

@fiore https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pulls

There's a couple on the first page with "AI assisted" labels.

(This was news to me, too. Going to take a look at `vis`.)

@mdhughes @siegel