anyone here know how to use "linux"
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@aeva it has instructions all the way to installing steam :3
@pupxel I'll keep that in my back pocket for the next time I feel like I have too much free time đ
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@pupxel I'll keep that in my back pocket for the next time I feel like I have too much free time đ
@aeva if you want to take the shorter route and modify an existing distro, everyone should have instructions for that, ubuntu's at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistroHowto
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@accela that'll do. can you bring it over here?
@accela alternatively, how does one do that
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@GyrosGeier I don't think this machine has a "uefi"
@GyrosGeier do you think a CD installer work or would that be basically the same problem again? is that still a thing?
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@GyrosGeier I don't think this machine has a "uefi"
@GyrosGeier I just checked, the options are @efi, non-efi, and "auto"
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anyone here know how to use "linux"
@aeva yes, for sufficiently narrow definitions of "linux"
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currently my best plan to get mollytime working on that machine is to port mollytime to haiku. I think my meds are starting to wear off for the night
ok it turns out the ancient version of ubuntu studio that's running on my old core 2 duo desktop only recently fell out of support because i had the good sense to install an LTS version, so upgrading to the latest LTS might be fairly straight forward. current plan is to do that and if the machine is still operable afterward, see if the clang version is new enough to build mollytime and otherwise install distrobox or something if it is not
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ok it turns out the ancient version of ubuntu studio that's running on my old core 2 duo desktop only recently fell out of support because i had the good sense to install an LTS version, so upgrading to the latest LTS might be fairly straight forward. current plan is to do that and if the machine is still operable afterward, see if the clang version is new enough to build mollytime and otherwise install distrobox or something if it is not
also, i had this great / horrible realization that on a long enough time scale, gentoo is probably the best option for continuing to run linux on hardware that is old enough for normal linux distros to tell you to throw it in the garbage
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also, i had this great / horrible realization that on a long enough time scale, gentoo is probably the best option for continuing to run linux on hardware that is old enough for normal linux distros to tell you to throw it in the garbage
@aeva That's what I do! Compile binpkgs on a modern (from 2013) PC and then install them on 20-year-old x86 hardware. Works great for me, though lack of SSE2 requires me to patch some softwares on my own, Gentoo didn't do it for me.
(But I can't help you with Mollytime because I've no idea what that is and it's not in the Gentoo repositories, sorry)
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also, i had this great / horrible realization that on a long enough time scale, gentoo is probably the best option for continuing to run linux on hardware that is old enough for normal linux distros to tell you to throw it in the garbage
@aeva similar conclusion here 𼲠Gentoo or a DIY distro
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@aeva similar conclusion here 𼲠Gentoo or a DIY distro
@nina_kali_nina I should probably bite the bullet and switch this machine over to gentoo sooner rather than later.
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@aeva That's what I do! Compile binpkgs on a modern (from 2013) PC and then install them on 20-year-old x86 hardware. Works great for me, though lack of SSE2 requires me to patch some softwares on my own, Gentoo didn't do it for me.
(But I can't help you with Mollytime because I've no idea what that is and it's not in the Gentoo repositories, sorry)
@vaporeon_ mollytime is a visual programming language for audio synthesis that I have been developing since this summer. I would be surprised if there were a package for it yet since I haven't announced a stable release yet. Off the top of my head, the software dependencies are a compiler that can build C++ 23, meson, ninja, python, pybind11, and SDL3.
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@vaporeon_ mollytime is a visual programming language for audio synthesis that I have been developing since this summer. I would be surprised if there were a package for it yet since I haven't announced a stable release yet. Off the top of my head, the software dependencies are a compiler that can build C++ 23, meson, ninja, python, pybind11, and SDL3.
@vaporeon_ I'm not using any special cpu intrinsics, so but the code assumes a 64 bit CPU. I don't know of any reason why a x64v1 CPU would not be able to use it.
If the 64bit constraint were worked around, the great reliance on 64 bit floating point math probably limits how far this can scale down.
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@vaporeon_ I'm not using any special cpu intrinsics, so but the code assumes a 64 bit CPU. I don't know of any reason why a x64v1 CPU would not be able to use it.
If the 64bit constraint were worked around, the great reliance on 64 bit floating point math probably limits how far this can scale down.
@vaporeon_ this is the current tail of my devlog thread if you are interested, btw https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@aeva/115620169762742174
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@vaporeon_ I'm not using any special cpu intrinsics, so but the code assumes a 64 bit CPU. I don't know of any reason why a x64v1 CPU would not be able to use it.
If the 64bit constraint were worked around, the great reliance on 64 bit floating point math probably limits how far this can scale down.
@aeva In principle, I ran Gentoo on an Intel Core 2 Duo Mac Mini until that computer broke, so for a Core 2 Duo, you don't even need a second modern computer for compiling (though that would be faster), you can just install and use Gentoo.
I can confirm that Gentoo works on BIOS systems no problem, I've personally installed it on multiple systems that only have BIOS.
It has Clang 20 and libsdl3.Although, if you don't actually want Gentoo, you just want your stuff to work: did you test yet whether the latest Debian boots from that USB stick? I remember installing it successfully on BIOS-only hardware a few years ago, but the latest version (Debian 13, which is the only one that has SDL3).
Unfortunately can't test it for you because they dropped 32-bit x86 support in that latest version
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@aeva In principle, I ran Gentoo on an Intel Core 2 Duo Mac Mini until that computer broke, so for a Core 2 Duo, you don't even need a second modern computer for compiling (though that would be faster), you can just install and use Gentoo.
I can confirm that Gentoo works on BIOS systems no problem, I've personally installed it on multiple systems that only have BIOS.
It has Clang 20 and libsdl3.Although, if you don't actually want Gentoo, you just want your stuff to work: did you test yet whether the latest Debian boots from that USB stick? I remember installing it successfully on BIOS-only hardware a few years ago, but the latest version (Debian 13, which is the only one that has SDL3).
Unfortunately can't test it for you because they dropped 32-bit x86 support in that latest version
)@vaporeon_ I tried the latest debian testing, but I wasn't able to get the live ISO to boot either from a bluray or a usb on this machine
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@vaporeon_ I tried the latest debian testing, but I wasn't able to get the live ISO to boot either from a bluray or a usb on this machine
@vaporeon_ I don't mind the idea of potentially running gentoo on this machine though
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@vaporeon_ I don't mind the idea of potentially running gentoo on this machine though
@aeva Good luck! (Let me know if you want any advice, I like talking about Gentoo, I don't know whether you've installed Gentoo before or not and I don't want to be condescending by explaining things that you already know)
In case it helps, I followed this article to set up building binary packages on the faster machine and installing them on the slower machine: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Binary_Host_Quickstart
Problem is that that requires an existing Gentoo machine, though... Or doing some stuff with Docker on a machine that runs some other distro, I guess
But compiling on a Core 2 Duo itself is 100% possible if you're OK with letting big compiles (like Clang and GCC) run overnight
Gli ultimi otto messaggi ricevuti dalla Federazione
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@lauramassera Hai assolutamente ragione, ma diciamo anche che nel 2025 è impossibile non riconoscere che la malvagità antisociale è il tratto distintivo di quelle Big Tech che spesso si presentavano eticamente candide.
L'unica eccezione è probabilmente quella di Apple che effettivamente ha deciso, sia anche solo per questioni di marketing e narrativa aziendale, di opporsi alle nuove tendenze del cattivismo trumpiano
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@mattwiebe.blog what a journey!
Iâm really impressed by your plans... I donât think Iâd ever have enough courage to pull something like that off. I hope Iâll get the chance to try your pizza someday!
Would be a great reason to visit Mexico đ
...and thanks for all your work on the ActivityPub plugin, I really miss your contributions â¤ď¸
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@OpenSoul era quello che mi stavo chiedendo anch'io. Il guaio è che è difficile fare una discussione seria, perchÊ la maggior parte dei commenti che si leggono sono a tesi...
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@stefano I think, it had been like this for a while. Sites for lots of more or less big projects, especially if they have paid version of a product, are marketing and buzzwords. That why I usually go straight to Documentation->How to get started for some simple overview and examples.
Looks like they just added those AI buttons without changing a site much.
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The Mechanically Perfect Lie
A loud noise outside my window brings back a memory from 2002. The night I truly could have died.
https://my-notes.dragas.net/2026/01/11/the-mechanically-perfect-lie/
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La battaglia per la libertĂ cognitiva nell'era dell'intelligenza artificiale aziendale
La libertà di pensiero non è solo uno scudo contro le intrusioni, è il terreno su cui costruiamo tutto il resto: il diritto di esprimersi, dissentire, credere, imparare, amare. Richiede sia libertà negative (da manipolazione, sorveglianza, coercizione) sia positive (di immaginare alternative, di cercare la verità , di plasmare le nostre opinioni e preferenze).
https://www.techpolicy.press/the-battle-for-cognitive-liberty-in-the-age-of-corporate-ai/
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@Elizafox when I first saw the original post, I snickered*, but thought it wasn't worth boosting. Then I saw it a second time because of Mastodon timeline reset shenaningans, I snickered again, but this time I boosted it, because I felt that something that could make me snicker two times in a row was definitely worth boosting.
(* not sure if this is the right word?)
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@NocturneGames https://arxiv.org/abs/2504.17033 here's the paper for the algorithm, i didn't spot a link to it in the article
