ACAB doesn't mean every single cop on an individual level is a morally bankrupt shithead.
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@someguy @hosford42 @mynameistillian
the cops aren't broken, they're doing exactly what they're supposed to do, and that's what's wrong with them.
there was never a time when cops were not violent class traitors and colonisers.
@burnitdown @hosford42 @mynameistillian
The system is working as intended.
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ACAB doesn't mean every single cop on an individual level is a morally bankrupt shithead. (a lot of them are, but that's beside the point).
even if you are the kindest samaritan cop in the world who never hurt a fly, being a cop means that you are a part of the system that is designed for violence, for oppression and inequality and has a long bigoted history that spans to this day. you choose to associate with it, even if you don't realize the implications.
@mynameistillian@plush.city
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ACAB doesn't mean every single cop on an individual level is a morally bankrupt shithead. (a lot of them are, but that's beside the point).
even if you are the kindest samaritan cop in the world who never hurt a fly, being a cop means that you are a part of the system that is designed for violence, for oppression and inequality and has a long bigoted history that spans to this day. you choose to associate with it, even if you don't realize the implications.
@mynameistillian idk what being assigned crab at birth has to do with cops in the first place?
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@mynameistillian I have a genuine question: What about those who would seek change from within? When I see officials resigning because of something awful, I always wonder why they don't stay on and fight against it, instead of handing the reins to someone who is blatantly malevolent. It's the same sort of deal here, from my perspective.
Aaron To get into a high enough position within the system to have any meaningful control over the system means having participated in the system to such a degree that the system itself has repeatedly rewarded you.
People who want to change systems do not get rewarded by those systems. People who get rewarded by systems are not incentivised to change them.
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there's no coming back from participating in the massive harm that white supremacy does. it's not something anyone can just apologise for.
@burnitdown @mynameistillian @hosford42 besides, you *can't* reform the police from within. reform comes from the government. within the police the best you can do is choose how to follow the orders you get from the govt, which really doesn't go all that far, even if you were the top cop in the counrty
even if that weren't the case good people have a way harder time getting promoted. cops that call out others for racism, brutality, illegal acts etc
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@burnitdown @mynameistillian @hosford42 besides, you *can't* reform the police from within. reform comes from the government. within the police the best you can do is choose how to follow the orders you get from the govt, which really doesn't go all that far, even if you were the top cop in the counrty
even if that weren't the case good people have a way harder time getting promoted. cops that call out others for racism, brutality, illegal acts etc
@burnitdown @mynameistillian @hosford42 cops witrh resolute ethics tend to get ostracized or even mysteriously kill themselves the morning before providing evidence to a court about police misconduct, mere days after telling family "if i turn up dead it was not suicide"
(this is not a hypothetical situation, if i'm remembering right)
point is, to go far as a cop often requires looking the other way - especially in police forces most in need of reform
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ACAB doesn't mean every single cop on an individual level is a morally bankrupt shithead. (a lot of them are, but that's beside the point).
even if you are the kindest samaritan cop in the world who never hurt a fly, being a cop means that you are a part of the system that is designed for violence, for oppression and inequality and has a long bigoted history that spans to this day. you choose to associate with it, even if you don't realize the implications.
@mynameistillian ACAB also means you have to treat any cop you interact with as though they are the worst cop you may ever meet, because that's the risk you always face
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@burnitdown @mynameistillian @hosford42 besides, you *can't* reform the police from within. reform comes from the government. within the police the best you can do is choose how to follow the orders you get from the govt, which really doesn't go all that far, even if you were the top cop in the counrty
even if that weren't the case good people have a way harder time getting promoted. cops that call out others for racism, brutality, illegal acts etc
@Yza @mynameistillian @hosford42
there is no such thing as reform. it's a euphemism for reputation laundering.
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@Yza @mynameistillian @hosford42
there is no such thing as reform. it's a euphemism for reputation laundering.
@burnitdown @mynameistillian @hosford42 yep. i was using the term as generously as possible for the sake of discussion, but you're sure right
here's an example of how reformation is used to protect the police:
during 2020 police abolition got a higher approval rating that both then presidential candidates. the democrats managed to convince people that it was an unpopular slogan that would alienate potential allies
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@burnitdown @mynameistillian @hosford42 yep. i was using the term as generously as possible for the sake of discussion, but you're sure right
here's an example of how reformation is used to protect the police:
during 2020 police abolition got a higher approval rating that both then presidential candidates. the democrats managed to convince people that it was an unpopular slogan that would alienate potential allies
@burnitdown @mynameistillian @hosford42 they talked people down from abolish the police to defund the police. soon that became too spicy for them too and the cry became reform the police. it wasn't long before biden was running on a platform of 'fund the police'. how are you possibly going to reform them without spending money on training after all? and by training i mean giving the cops money under the assumption things will work themselves out
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