social network is way more empowering. saying it's media positions people as watchers. that is what it has become, but we should strive to make networks that enable us to work together.
Dave Winer ☕️
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I'm sure other people have noted this but at some point we went from talking about "social network sites" to talking about "social media sites" -
Wordland Part 3Greeted this morning by seeing @cogdog@cosocial.ca and @davew@mastodon.social in a back and forth about using Wordland with OPML.i love that. i've been looking for my tribe for a long time, and maybe this is it. ;-)
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Wordland Part 3Greeted this morning by seeing @cogdog@cosocial.ca and @davew@mastodon.social in a back and forth about using Wordland with OPML.@andyrush.wordpress.com @cogdog
i'm just starting to know the people in the wordpress community, so why is your singing and how can we make it sing some more? :-)
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Now, after being asleep for 19 years, the web can now wake up.Now, after being asleep for 19 years, the web can now wake up. It really feels that way.
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@DotheWoo /cc @davewThis is where you can comment on the podcast Matthias and I did yesterday.
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The web is about free movement.The web is about free movement. If there are walls that keep competitors out and users in, it is not the web.
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It's great that people are talking about textcasting, but they want to know what it means.It's great that people are talking about textcasting, but they want to know what it means. Here's the story.
When Twitter came out in 2006 they left out most of the writing features of the web. Their competitors have copied the limits. Textcasting says writers don't want the limits. Add these features to your twitter-like social network and we are happy and will sing your praise.
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@garthk @NewtonMark @simon That’s fair.Also I've written a lot about textcasting on my blog, and luckily it's indexed.
https://daytona.scripting.com/search?q=textcasting
I'm writing some more about it this morning, and that will show up in the index too.
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@garthk @NewtonMark @simon That’s fair.I guess what I was saying when I wrote this is that the web has become a sea of silos that don’t interop with each other.
But if they did, this is how they would do it.
Example: podcast software agrees on the format of audio files. It’s ridiculous that text apps each think they can limit the features of text documents, in incompatible ways, esp since the web is so clear on the features of text documents.
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@garthk @NewtonMark @simon That’s fair.That’s fair. The use case is that any app that proposes to be part of the web should minimally support these features of the web.
Examples include Bluesky, mastodon, twitter, threads.
I know they won’t, because they haven’t so far.
Cont’t because of character limit.
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We can do better than Twitter, Bluesky and Mastodon, by taking the same approach we took with audio in podcasting, with text.i see it the same way.
the difference is the user interface.
i've been blogging about this regularly for the last couple of years dan.
here's a piece that explains the big picture.
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I'm always preaching "working together."It's like the web, but with people.I'm always preaching "working together."
It's like the web, but with people.
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We can do better than Twitter, Bluesky and Mastodon, by taking the same approach we took with audio in podcasting, with text. -
We can do better than Twitter, Bluesky and Mastodon, by taking the same approach we took with audio in podcasting, with text.i don't care how they deal with it, but yes, Show More is one way.
we do it differently in FeedLand, just click in the text and it shows you all of it. why make the reader aim at anything in particular.
we initially had something like Show More, but this was easier and totally intuitive it turns out.
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We can do better than Twitter, Bluesky and Mastodon, by taking the same approach we took with audio in podcasting, with text.This is why you think this is "just" about blogging.
Blogging started before twitter put severe limits on what parts of writing you could use when writing on the web.
That was 19 years ago!
So if you want to trivialize my manifesto, you could say all i want is social media to put back the features twitter took away.
And there's progress --
https://mastodon.social/@scripting@daveverse.org/115241788363705334
Kind of looks like a blog post, but look at where it is. That's thanks to the work Automattic is doing with ActivityPub.
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@madpilot thanks.thanks. i tried. and that document has been up for quite some time, so there's a fair amount of feedback already baked into it. ;-)
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@madpilot How could it be more clear this is about social media?How could it be more clear this is about social media?
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We can do better than Twitter, Bluesky and Mastodon, by taking the same approach we took with audio in podcasting, with text.Btw all the people who say textcasting is just blogging, you can apologize after admitting you didn’t read the post. 😀
“We can do better than Twitter, Bluesky and Mastodon, by taking the same approach we took with audio in podcasting, with text.”
I don’t see anything about blogging there do you?
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@madpilot @NewtonMark Not reinventing RSS — for getting masto and Bluesky to give up the limits of twitterNot reinventing RSS — for getting masto and Bluesky to give up the limits of twitter.
But thanks for being nice about this. The others are basically looking for a excuse to be rude, 😵💫
RSS already does all this, except for markdown which I added via the source namespace.
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We can do better than Twitter, Bluesky and Mastodon, by taking the same approach we took with audio in podcasting, with text.Yes, of course. I am the OG blogger.