Hrmm due to filling up my database allocation I have had to increase my Masto
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It’s worse than I thought. I don’t blame Masto.host for this, but everywhere on their site it said 29 dollars. But now the email has come through from what I assume/guess is the payment processor it’s actually $34.80, I assume due to VAT that hasn’t been properly indicated at earlier stages. So I am paying £25.82 a month (at current exchange rates) to be on mastodon with my own instance.
That really does feel expensive.
Again, not criticising Masto.host.
@bloor are you using a lot of media storage. The VM I am self hosting on is 2 core 8Gb ram and 32Gb disk. That includes media store and database and OS.
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It’s worse than I thought. I don’t blame Masto.host for this, but everywhere on their site it said 29 dollars. But now the email has come through from what I assume/guess is the payment processor it’s actually $34.80, I assume due to VAT that hasn’t been properly indicated at earlier stages. So I am paying £25.82 a month (at current exchange rates) to be on mastodon with my own instance.
That really does feel expensive.
Again, not criticising Masto.host.
@bloor I can share with you the script that I run to purge my instance (daily), but I don't know if one can use it with masto.host (or if you would want to)?
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@bloor I can share with you the script that I run to purge my instance (daily), but I don't know if one can use it with masto.host (or if you would want to)?
@neil one of the things I really valued about Twitter and miss about (current setup) of mastodon was the longevity of stuff. Someone could search on Twitter and find a tweet I did about some obscure topic 3 years before. Mastodon lacks that, kind-of. But with elastic search I could at least semi get it back for myself searching my own tweets.
I don’t think I’d want to auto purge but I fully understand why some folks might do.
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@neil one of the things I really valued about Twitter and miss about (current setup) of mastodon was the longevity of stuff. Someone could search on Twitter and find a tweet I did about some obscure topic 3 years before. Mastodon lacks that, kind-of. But with elastic search I could at least semi get it back for myself searching my own tweets.
I don’t think I’d want to auto purge but I fully understand why some folks might do.
@neil as a recent example of this, someone here recently asked about my desktop (the wooden one, not the electronic one) and I was able to manually scroll back through media posted and re-reference a bunch of photo toots from when I was building my main computer desk.
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@neil as a recent example of this, someone here recently asked about my desktop (the wooden one, not the electronic one) and I was able to manually scroll back through media posted and re-reference a bunch of photo toots from when I was building my main computer desk.
@neil here’s the toot :
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@neil one of the things I really valued about Twitter and miss about (current setup) of mastodon was the longevity of stuff. Someone could search on Twitter and find a tweet I did about some obscure topic 3 years before. Mastodon lacks that, kind-of. But with elastic search I could at least semi get it back for myself searching my own tweets.
I don’t think I’d want to auto purge but I fully understand why some folks might do.
@bloor Yes, completely understandable.
For me, this is a transient thing (although I can't stop others making comments), and my blog is for things that I want to persist.
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@david Ignorant question: is activtypub another word for mastodon? If not, I'm not sure what this is!
@bloor@bloor.tw
Activitypub is the open protocol in the background.
Mastodon is one of many different more or less interoperable applications built on top of it. Snac2 is another one.
There are minor differences in what they each provide on top of activitypub, but snac provides a mastodon compatible web API, so that you can use all the usual mastodon clients to interact with it.
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It’s worse than I thought. I don’t blame Masto.host for this, but everywhere on their site it said 29 dollars. But now the email has come through from what I assume/guess is the payment processor it’s actually $34.80, I assume due to VAT that hasn’t been properly indicated at earlier stages. So I am paying £25.82 a month (at current exchange rates) to be on mastodon with my own instance.
That really does feel expensive.
Again, not criticising Masto.host.
@bloor ouch. I went for cheap VPS hosting for my microblog instance (@gadgetoid@mastodon.gadgetoid.com ) and self hosting has been its own adventure. Mastodon is complicated and unwieldy and trying to regenerate static assets will knock out my server so I have a local staging copy just for that. And then there’s the hassle of backups. I’m sure there are solutions involving money and time but I don’t want a second job running a mastodon server. £25/month to avoid that is…. tempting.
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@bloor@bloor.tw
Activitypub is the open protocol in the background.
Mastodon is one of many different more or less interoperable applications built on top of it. Snac2 is another one.
There are minor differences in what they each provide on top of activitypub, but snac provides a mastodon compatible web API, so that you can use all the usual mastodon clients to interact with it.@bloor@bloor.tw
My social.grelli.org runs on snac
@stefano@bsd.cafe
runs fedimeteo with weather forecast accounts for the whole world on snac from a 5EUR/month VPS
As a happy client of the place you work at, and it's philosophy, I'm quite sure you'll like snac. :)
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@bloor@bloor.tw
My social.grelli.org runs on snac
@stefano@bsd.cafe
runs fedimeteo with weather forecast accounts for the whole world on snac from a 5EUR/month VPS
As a happy client of the place you work at, and it's philosophy, I'm quite sure you'll like snac. :) -
It’s worse than I thought. I don’t blame Masto.host for this, but everywhere on their site it said 29 dollars. But now the email has come through from what I assume/guess is the payment processor it’s actually $34.80, I assume due to VAT that hasn’t been properly indicated at earlier stages. So I am paying £25.82 a month (at current exchange rates) to be on mastodon with my own instance.
That really does feel expensive.
Again, not criticising Masto.host.
@bloor
*Ouch*. Given the minipc I'm hosting mastodon on was 120 quid all in*, the payback period of self hosting feels very quick against that, even accounting for backups (and my time not being free)*It does look like the rampocalypse has added 50% onto that price now.
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@bloor@bloor.tw
Maybe @gyptazy@gyptazy.com can advise? I think he was running both for a while
Snac's author is @grunfink@comam.es
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@bloor@bloor.tw
Maybe @gyptazy@gyptazy.com can advise? I think he was running both for a while
Snac's author is @grunfink@comam.es@david @bloor @gyptazy @grunfink unfortunately, you can't (easily) migrate media/old toots. There are some external tools that can help with it, but I've never tried them. You can move your followers/followings.
Mastodon isn't that heavy - but media storage can become huge. snac won't download and reprocess all the media files (so it's light) and can give a good experience. It's not a fully featured Mastodon experience but...hey, it's not Mastodon 😉
You can also consider other solutions like GoToSocial. It has a more complete Mastodon API implementation as it has no native web interface (you can use all the web ones like Phanpy, elk, nicolium, etc)