Does the open web require competitive markets?
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@evan I answered no because I believe that markets themselves concentrate capital into the hands of monopolies and systematically eliminate the very characteristics that define an open society.
@burnoutqueen That's why governments have intervened in markets for the last century and a half: to prevent anti-competitive behaviour and discourage monopolies.
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@burnoutqueen That's why governments have intervened in markets for the last century and a half: to prevent anti-competitive behaviour and discourage monopolies.
@evan oligopolies are not fundamentally different from monopolies
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@evan oligopolies are not fundamentally different from monopolies
@burnoutqueen You are correct!
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@evan I'd say yes, we need competition and regulation.
@leanderlindahl Me too.
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But that's beside the point. I don't think that monopolies are compatible with an open web, and those of us who believe in the open web should carefully consider whether our work encourages or discourages anti-competitive practices.
I should probably note that I've been a Mozilla donor and product user for years. I use Vivaldi for my daily-drive browsing, because they support the Fediverse, and Mozilla does not. But I still use Mozilla's VPN (it's pretty good), and I think Mozilla holds an important place in the Web ecosystem.
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But that's beside the point. I don't think that monopolies are compatible with an open web, and those of us who believe in the open web should carefully consider whether our work encourages or discourages anti-competitive practices.
@evan I think a lot more depends on how one interprets this question... "Does the open web require competitive markets?"
and I see how one can interpret that to mean monopolistic from a 'no' answer, but i think of this more as the internet to not be a place to buy and sell stuff. In fact to be a place for information and exchange of communication, in that sense then market is not needed for an open web. -
@evan I think a lot more depends on how one interprets this question... "Does the open web require competitive markets?"
and I see how one can interpret that to mean monopolistic from a 'no' answer, but i think of this more as the internet to not be a place to buy and sell stuff. In fact to be a place for information and exchange of communication, in that sense then market is not needed for an open web.@marxistvegan Does the fact that the Wikipedia article for competition was linked in the poll suggest that the emphasis was more on competition than on markets?
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Does the open web require competitive markets?
Interestingly, when signing up for a new W3C Working Group, I had to sign off on this policy:
https://www.w3.org/policies/antitrust-2024/
It's interesting that the W3C has such a policy.
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Interestingly, when signing up for a new W3C Working Group, I had to sign off on this policy:
https://www.w3.org/policies/antitrust-2024/
It's interesting that the W3C has such a policy.
@evan@cosocial.ca speaking of policies Mr Evan
Thought you might be interested if you have not spotted story
https://www.euractiv.com/news/commission-wants-to-commercialise-open-source-for-sovereignty/ -
@evan@cosocial.ca speaking of policies Mr Evan
Thought you might be interested if you have not spotted story
https://www.euractiv.com/news/commission-wants-to-commercialise-open-source-for-sovereignty/@ozzy Someone else tagged it this morning!