I just finished an amazing call.

[stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

I just finished an amazing call.
The person I was talking to was trying to explain to me that Docker is an entire operating system, so he doesn’t want Linux or any of the BSDs, but Docker. I explained that, in order to run Docker, you need a kernel.

"No, you don't. Docker does everything on its own. If you think that, then you don’t really understand operating systems."

I told the guy that I couldn’t help him, since I'm not experienced enough with operating systems. He was a bit disappointed, but we said goodbye on friendly terms.

I'm used to recognizing when I'm too ignorant for the person I'm talking to, and I'm happy to step aside.

#IT #SysAdmin

[qwertz@defcon.social]

@stefano wut?? ... LOL

[paride5745@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@stefano top!

[freezr@friendica.myportal.social]

@stefano

You're too good.
These are the clients to squeeze up as a lemons... 😈

[rootmoose@mstdn.ca]

@stefano This is the way.

[autiomaa@mementomori.social]

@stefano You avoided a massive amount of extra communication effort (that would have been needed to get that person to understand that they didn't quite know what they did not know). 😯 Project success would have been very difficult to get on that environment.

[netzwerkgoettin@konfigurationsmanufaktur.de]

@stefano 🙈

[ramin_hal9001@fe.disroot.org]

@stefano@bsd.cafe sounds like the caller learned all they knew about computers from an LLM. The degree of confidence with which they stated that Docker is an operating system sounds sadly familiar.

[mwl@io.mwl.io]

@stefano You are wise enough to know when to step aside, well done.

[jordan@mastodon.subj.am]

@stefano Well I guess they've got it all figured out!

[dch@bsd.network]

@stefano nicely done. I’ve had this a couple of times in my career, and stepping away while telling the person they’re “completely right” is the only winning move. They’re invariably customers you don’t want to have anyway.

[nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@mwl @stefano You just can't fix willful ignorance. I did a gig for a body shop a few years back, connection made by my wife who, as an insurance adjuster, knew that they were unhappy with their current MSP.

It wasn't that their MSP was doing a bad job, it was that they wouldn't let their MSP do anything beyond a shit job. They were absolutely, and completely opposed to any and all computer security because, "No one is going to steal a body shop's information, no one will ever hack us." Needless to say, they had numerous problems they refused to believe were due to security issues. They had an open share file server sitting on the same network as the guest wifi. Guess what I found all over it?

I fixed one issue for them, then decided to nope the fuck out. Also, the one owner's son would absolutely never shut up about bitcoin.

[xenophage@infosec.exchange]

@nuintari @mwl @stefano Have you head the good word about our lord and savior, Satoshi?

/me ducks

[bsdtv@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@stefano question: were they referred to you by the same person who rudely insisted that SSDs 'spin'? Agreed. You dodged a problem here.

[michel@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@stefano well, it says Ubuntu on the image, doesn't it?

[mvilain@sfba.social]

@stefano The Dunning-Kruger is strong in this one. I asked a candidate what the difference is between a VM and Docker container. Interview ended shortly after that question.

[jana@social.jsteuernagel.de]

@stefano Reminds me of a person at work insisting that a container contains a full operating system.

So I made it a point at a previous presentation to show that a container can also just contain a single binary and nothing else.

[stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@bsdtv ahahah no, not the same referral.

[stefano@mastodon.bsd.cafe]

@freezr no...this was clearly leading to more problems than advantages

[akamran@indieweb.social]

@stefano I am not in any way, shape, or form a programmer or other type of computer toucher and even I know that isn't an OS, for heaven's sake!