In an article about more solar farms in the UK, the BBC quotes the 7000 Acres Group:
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In an article about more solar farms in the UK, the BBC quotes the 7000 Acres Group:
> "fighting to protect the countryside from mass industrialisation"
It's worth pointing out that the UK uses 2.2% of arable land for biofuel (as of 2024) but only 0.3% for solar farms. I don't think solar farms are necessarily more industrial than biofuels.
I'm happy to be put right if I've misunderstood.
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In an article about more solar farms in the UK, the BBC quotes the 7000 Acres Group:
> "fighting to protect the countryside from mass industrialisation"
It's worth pointing out that the UK uses 2.2% of arable land for biofuel (as of 2024) but only 0.3% for solar farms. I don't think solar farms are necessarily more industrial than biofuels.
I'm happy to be put right if I've misunderstood.
@billhorsman I don’t think they know what industrialisation means.
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In an article about more solar farms in the UK, the BBC quotes the 7000 Acres Group:
> "fighting to protect the countryside from mass industrialisation"
It's worth pointing out that the UK uses 2.2% of arable land for biofuel (as of 2024) but only 0.3% for solar farms. I don't think solar farms are necessarily more industrial than biofuels.
I'm happy to be put right if I've misunderstood.
@billhorsman I used to work for https://www.ramblers.org.uk/
They were then campaigning against the installation of wind turbines
They were also campaigning against the removal of red phone boxes
At the same time there was a storage clear out- which included old campaign leaflets against the installation of the red phone boxes
Some people don't like change
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
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In an article about more solar farms in the UK, the BBC quotes the 7000 Acres Group:
> "fighting to protect the countryside from mass industrialisation"
It's worth pointing out that the UK uses 2.2% of arable land for biofuel (as of 2024) but only 0.3% for solar farms. I don't think solar farms are necessarily more industrial than biofuels.
I'm happy to be put right if I've misunderstood.
Also, land used for solar can also be used at the same time for chickens, or sheep. Even crops, if the panels are high enough.
Anyway, a huge monoculture field of wheat or potatoes or anything is industrial - food is an industry!
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In an article about more solar farms in the UK, the BBC quotes the 7000 Acres Group:
> "fighting to protect the countryside from mass industrialisation"
It's worth pointing out that the UK uses 2.2% of arable land for biofuel (as of 2024) but only 0.3% for solar farms. I don't think solar farms are necessarily more industrial than biofuels.
I'm happy to be put right if I've misunderstood.
@billhorsman Particularly when the land itself can still be used for livestock farming. Not that livestock needs any more land, but we could at least be making better use of the marginal arable land for solar and zero-inputs meat. Use the good arable land for feeding people directly 🙂
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In an article about more solar farms in the UK, the BBC quotes the 7000 Acres Group:
> "fighting to protect the countryside from mass industrialisation"
It's worth pointing out that the UK uses 2.2% of arable land for biofuel (as of 2024) but only 0.3% for solar farms. I don't think solar farms are necessarily more industrial than biofuels.
I'm happy to be put right if I've misunderstood.
@billhorsman @Nickiquote Putting my farmer hat on, I’d suggest that Lincolnshire councillor and his pet nimbys simply get lost.
If they really want to “protect the countryside”, perhaps they could stop helping oil companies to burn the planet?
Or campaign against all the massive factory farms in Lincolnshire?
Or the destruction of Lincolnshire rivers from waste dumping?
Oh, silence. Quelle surprise.
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@billhorsman @Nickiquote Putting my farmer hat on, I’d suggest that Lincolnshire councillor and his pet nimbys simply get lost.
If they really want to “protect the countryside”, perhaps they could stop helping oil companies to burn the planet?
Or campaign against all the massive factory farms in Lincolnshire?
Or the destruction of Lincolnshire rivers from waste dumping?
Oh, silence. Quelle surprise.
@BashStKid @billhorsman @Nickiquote Tell me councillor, when did you switch your allegiance to the Hard of Thinking Party?
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In an article about more solar farms in the UK, the BBC quotes the 7000 Acres Group:
> "fighting to protect the countryside from mass industrialisation"
It's worth pointing out that the UK uses 2.2% of arable land for biofuel (as of 2024) but only 0.3% for solar farms. I don't think solar farms are necessarily more industrial than biofuels.
I'm happy to be put right if I've misunderstood.
@billhorsman I don't get the love for huge monoculture farming deserts. Fields aren't "natural" landscape, they're already industrialised.
And even in the UK, solar farms yield more than 6 times more energy than if used to grow biofuels. Some estimates suggest putting PV generated electric in an EV rather than ethanol in a combustion engine gets you 30 times further for the same acre of land.
And solar farms generally have far greater bio diversity than an arable crop.
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@billhorsman I don't get the love for huge monoculture farming deserts. Fields aren't "natural" landscape, they're already industrialised.
And even in the UK, solar farms yield more than 6 times more energy than if used to grow biofuels. Some estimates suggest putting PV generated electric in an EV rather than ethanol in a combustion engine gets you 30 times further for the same acre of land.
And solar farms generally have far greater bio diversity than an arable crop.
@guigsy 6 times? That’s good to know. I was trying to work out how to calculate that. My gut feeling was that biofuels made more inefficient use of land than solar. Thanks.
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In an article about more solar farms in the UK, the BBC quotes the 7000 Acres Group:
> "fighting to protect the countryside from mass industrialisation"
It's worth pointing out that the UK uses 2.2% of arable land for biofuel (as of 2024) but only 0.3% for solar farms. I don't think solar farms are necessarily more industrial than biofuels.
I'm happy to be put right if I've misunderstood.
@billhorsman This apposite post also appeared in my timeline this morning.
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In an article about more solar farms in the UK, the BBC quotes the 7000 Acres Group:
> "fighting to protect the countryside from mass industrialisation"
It's worth pointing out that the UK uses 2.2% of arable land for biofuel (as of 2024) but only 0.3% for solar farms. I don't think solar farms are necessarily more industrial than biofuels.
I'm happy to be put right if I've misunderstood.
@billhorsman
The 7000 acres group are about 250 years too late
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inclosure_Act_1773 -
@billhorsman I don't get the love for huge monoculture farming deserts. Fields aren't "natural" landscape, they're already industrialised.
And even in the UK, solar farms yield more than 6 times more energy than if used to grow biofuels. Some estimates suggest putting PV generated electric in an EV rather than ethanol in a combustion engine gets you 30 times further for the same acre of land.
And solar farms generally have far greater bio diversity than an arable crop.
@billhorsman I think that excluded the energy required to harvest and then process the crop into ethanol. There's studies in the US to suggest that growing biofuels for transport might be so ineffective as to use more fossil fuel than they save!
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In an article about more solar farms in the UK, the BBC quotes the 7000 Acres Group:
> "fighting to protect the countryside from mass industrialisation"
It's worth pointing out that the UK uses 2.2% of arable land for biofuel (as of 2024) but only 0.3% for solar farms. I don't think solar farms are necessarily more industrial than biofuels.
I'm happy to be put right if I've misunderstood.
@billhorsman The BBC article also mentions that, if approved, proposed solar farms would cover 30,000 acres in Lincolnshire.
To keep things in perspective, that is about the same amount of land as is taken up by golf courses in the county. -
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