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@_elena I think that we need more "why/how you should join the Fediverse" rather than "why you should not use platform X, Y, W".
We (as in: the internet) spoke loudly about why not using certain type of softwares and platform and it didn't really made a substantial difference.
I think we need to focus on bringing people (and make them stay) here rather than scare them about another software or platform.
Elena, je comprends ton exaspération mais pour répondre à la question, tu te fatigues pour rien. Surtout maintenant.
Au bout d'une vingtaine d'année de militantisme sur ces sujets. J'en conclue qu'il est vain de dissuader les gens aller sur ces plateformes. Tous les arguments qu'on mobilise, en paeticuler celui sur la vie privée et la surveillance de masse n'ont pas d'effet. Les gens sensibles à ces arguments sont déjà parti. C'est une minorité.
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Elena, je comprends ton exaspération mais pour répondre à la question, tu te fatigues pour rien. Surtout maintenant.
Au bout d'une vingtaine d'année de militantisme sur ces sujets. J'en conclue qu'il est vain de dissuader les gens aller sur ces plateformes. Tous les arguments qu'on mobilise, en paeticuler celui sur la vie privée et la surveillance de masse n'ont pas d'effet. Les gens sensibles à ces arguments sont déjà parti. C'est une minorité.
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@_elena si aujourd'hui, vu le niveau de merdification de twitter et meta, les gens y sont toujours c'est qu'on ne les aura pas avec des arguments politiques. Ton documentaire aussi insiste beaucoup sur l'argument de la surveillance/nos données. C'est vain.
Nous devons nous concentrer sur l'émergence d'alternatives et sur créer une meilleure expérience et se focaliser sur le contenu proposé qui doit être plus intéressant.
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Elena, je comprends ton exaspération mais pour répondre à la question, tu te fatigues pour rien. Surtout maintenant.
Au bout d'une vingtaine d'année de militantisme sur ces sujets. J'en conclue qu'il est vain de dissuader les gens aller sur ces plateformes. Tous les arguments qu'on mobilise, en paeticuler celui sur la vie privée et la surveillance de masse n'ont pas d'effet. Les gens sensibles à ces arguments sont déjà parti. C'est une minorité.
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@lutindiscret @ed I hear you but I still want to at least write an article about it collecting all the evidence I found. They had TERRIBLE security in place and are asking for government IDs to join. I don't feel like staying silent on this. Taking 2 hours to write a blog post is nothing... the press about it has been all P.R. and I want to do the work that lazy journalists didn't do
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@_elena si aujourd'hui, vu le niveau de merdification de twitter et meta, les gens y sont toujours c'est qu'on ne les aura pas avec des arguments politiques. Ton documentaire aussi insiste beaucoup sur l'argument de la surveillance/nos données. C'est vain.
Nous devons nous concentrer sur l'émergence d'alternatives et sur créer une meilleure expérience et se focaliser sur le contenu proposé qui doit être plus intéressant.
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@_elena moi je focalise sur l'ux/ui, les artistes/créateur/artisans qui doivent pouvoir venir y promouvoir leur activité et faire des ventes pour vivre (@aemarielle), les pro notamment faire circuler toutes les offres d'emploi et les recherches, la recherche scientifique (icanhazpdf), le milieu des coopératives, la création de jeuw vidéos. Voilà càd créer un réseau avec de la valeur, de l'utilité concrète pour les gens.
Convaincre de quitter X, W ou Meta, c'est perdu. Faut proposer mieux.
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@humanhorseshoes @FrankauLux @_elena
Do you know if w received any eu funding?
@frebelt @FrankauLux @_elena for an "expert" on privacy running it it is unusual to see a very old privacy policy with large holes in it on their site
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@frebelt @FrankauLux @_elena for an "expert" on privacy running it it is unusual to see a very old privacy policy with large holes in it on their site
@humanhorseshoes @frebelt @FrankauLux based on what I’ve seen (in terms of technical weaknesses) their site looks like a pasta colander to me 🤡
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@humanhorseshoes @frebelt @FrankauLux based on what I’ve seen (in terms of technical weaknesses) their site looks like a pasta colander to me 🤡
@_elena @frebelt @FrankauLux I've seen this play before, the company behind it appears to be a professional greenwashing funding harvester
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@0xtero there are allegedly links to the Swedish right (that would explain the requirement of IDs to post). Still researching the claims
@_elena @0xtero There are no links to the swedish right. But links the teh swedish upper class and conservatives. And to WeDontHaveTime as well as to euopena AI-interests (mainly in France as it seems). https://blog.zaramis.se/2026/01/24/personerna-bakom-w-social-vill-tjana-pengar/
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@_elena @0xtero There are no links to the swedish right. But links the teh swedish upper class and conservatives. And to WeDontHaveTime as well as to euopena AI-interests (mainly in France as it seems). https://blog.zaramis.se/2026/01/24/personerna-bakom-w-social-vill-tjana-pengar/
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Dear Fedi friends,
I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).
The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).
Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?
@_elena You're right, I'm with you. I deleted my X account almost two years ago. Why would anyone vote no, that it's not worth it? Seriously, what's wrong with them?
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@_elena they didn't even remove the name "Bluesky" on various parts of the website 🤣🤣🤣
@BrennpunktUA @_elena Seriously, the BlueSky website is an eyesore, I can't stand how bad it looks!
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@_elena @nopatience I second that.
A video addressing the nearly 60% of Members of the European Parliament still active on X would be beautiful.
What would happen if prominent politicians had official, active accounts on the Fediverse? Public attention would certainly follow, as would journalists, who are obligated to track and report on political figures.
People don't leave the Fediverse solely because of technical hurdles. Many arrive, look around, and simply don't find enough reasons to stay. Retention is not just a usability problem, but also a matter of social density and relevance. With a sufficiently large and visible group of active participants, the Fediverse could generate its own gravity and flourish beyond the tech-savvy community.
@everton137 @_elena @nopatience a week or so ago I checked the 14 Irish MEPs and found 7 of them on X. I sent them all an email to urge them to #LoseTheXLink and to consider Mastodon instead. NONE of them even bothered to respond, not even Luke Ming Flanagan who puts himself forward as a progressive candidate.
It's easy to ignore ONE email. What if they got thousands?
The green party of Ireland already made the move. Well done @greenparty_ie
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@everton137 @_elena @nopatience a week or so ago I checked the 14 Irish MEPs and found 7 of them on X. I sent them all an email to urge them to #LoseTheXLink and to consider Mastodon instead. NONE of them even bothered to respond, not even Luke Ming Flanagan who puts himself forward as a progressive candidate.
It's easy to ignore ONE email. What if they got thousands?
The green party of Ireland already made the move. Well done @greenparty_ie
@everton137 @_elena @nopatience @greenparty_ie still active on X
Nina CARBERRYRegina DOHERTY
Luke Ming FLANAGAN
Kathleen FUNCHION
Seán KELLY
Cynthia NÍ MHURCHÚ
Maria WALSH
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Dear Fedi friends,
I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).
The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).
Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?
@_elena I totally support you.
I am trying something different.
I am creating a fedi/mastodon instance just for the pollies in Australia.
I plan to invite them all too it.
It will be au.politicians.social i partially got started today with the domain.
Do you want to setup ie. Or irl.
Only allow .gov.ie emails to register on it.
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Dear Fedi friends,
I'm pretty fired up exposing the ridiculousness of #WSocial, a new social network purported to be a European alternative to X that launched at Davos (yikes).
The French press devoted many articles to it (meanwhile: crickets about the Fediverse).
Before I go full steam ahead grabbing domain names and creating a web site that shows the weaknesses of W / suggests to check out the Fediverse instead, I want to put it to you: should I do it?
@_elena We have states and local auths too, all with similar emails.
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@everton137 @_elena @nopatience a week or so ago I checked the 14 Irish MEPs and found 7 of them on X. I sent them all an email to urge them to #LoseTheXLink and to consider Mastodon instead. NONE of them even bothered to respond, not even Luke Ming Flanagan who puts himself forward as a progressive candidate.
It's easy to ignore ONE email. What if they got thousands?
The green party of Ireland already made the move. Well done @greenparty_ie
@rozeboosje @everton137 @_elena @nopatience @greenparty_ie
Flanagan has been in hospital recently for surgery on his jaw, that might effect whether or not you'd get a response.
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@rozeboosje @everton137 @_elena @nopatience @greenparty_ie
Flanagan has been in hospital recently for surgery on his jaw, that might effect whether or not you'd get a response.
@piraat @everton137 @_elena @nopatience @greenparty_ie ah..... thanks for the heads up. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, so.
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@narF trust me I checked but it was already taken.
that being said, you’re speaking to the proud owner of wsocial.it 💁🏻♀️
@squirrel @joakimfors
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@narF trust me I checked but it was already taken.
that being said, you’re speaking to the proud owner of wsocial.it 💁🏻♀️
@squirrel @joakimfors
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@nighten@hi.nighten.fr might be ghost doesn't support non-public objects yet. @johnonolan@mastodon.xyz ?
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Indieweb.Social Top Accounts - Mastodon Starter Pack→ https://fedidevs.com/s/ODQ3/
A listing of some of the top accounts that make Indieweb.social their social home.
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@liaizon hey you got any handy pre-cooked custom ⁂ name tag designs to print-and-play? 😉
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@mapache @pfefferle @andypiper @evanprodromou @haubles @darius @bjoernsta @django @resieguen @openforfuture @iusondemand @cwebber @tsyesika @zzepposs @melaniebartos @Pepijn @Floppy @tobias @mayel @ivan @hongminhee@hackers.pub @samvie @benpate @neiman @hongminhee@hollo.social @liaizon @filippodb @magostinelli @publicspaces @cubicgarden @bogo @bonfire @michael @toon @FediVariety @vishnee @cypherhippie @nextgraph @localfirst
Wear an ⁂ name tag so people can find you!
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@dneary @mapache @RuiSeabra oh nooooooo
