What is a REAL book?

[ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu]

@MatthewNewell @Natasha_Jay Yeah, I use audiobooks and podcasts for chores and walks, but anything I want to remember, I will read from a book or my eReader.

[matthewnewell@mastodon.social]

@ainmosni @Natasha_Jay

Have you tried both? Either simultaneously or not?

I used to record myself reading study materials and listen back whilst reading. Not sure it was efficient as I have always had pretty good recall anyway - but the process was diverting as it was studying/not studying at one and the same time.

Since dawn of easy availability of commercially available / professionally narrated books I have never really wanted to learn subject deeply enough to try

[mrshark@mathstodon.xyz]

@Natasha_Jay

In Swedish accessibility circles there is the term "svartskrift" (direct translation "black writing") as opposed to audiobooks and braile.

I think this is a term that should get a wider usage in these times of alternate ways of reading.

[hananc@tooot.im]

@lobingera @Natasha_Jay the real book is a real book.

[ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu]

@MatthewNewell @Natasha_Jay I honestly think it'd confuse me to do at the same time, and repeating it in too short an interval would probably annoy me.

Then again, I tend to read references more so that I know where to look when I need the information, not to fully memorise stuff

[david_chisnall@infosec.exchange]

@Natasha_Jay

Real books are ones with no imaginary component. And who would want to read those?

[lobingera@chaos.social]

@david_chisnall @Natasha_Jay as an engineer i prefer complex books with both components

[mort@procial.tchncs.de]

@ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt
My brain's a sieve either way ...
But it's easiest to flip back to "wait, how was that again?" in printed books.

[sergiodeprado@masto.es]

@lobingera @Natasha_Jay thought the same

[ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu]

@mort @Natasha_Jay it really depends, for me, having a reference is best in electronic form, so that I can link to it and search it. Dead tree format is second, then audio, and then video.

Of course, if I'm trying to learn a new physical technique, videos are the best.

[eigengott@mstdn.social]

@bdf2121cc3334b35b6ecda66e471
So printed books borrowed from a public library are not real books? 😉

I think it's better to phrase this as "E-books with DRM are not real books, as access can be revoked any time by the licensing company."

This also recognizes that DRM free e-books on offline reading hardware are real books.

@Natasha_Jay

[arnodegroote@mastodon.social]

@Natasha_Jay I still struggle with the given of an audiobook being a "real book". but, hey, that's just me.

I get it's more inclusive and useful for people with certain disabilities. But to me it's just like a type of podcast episode and more "background noise" instead of active reading

[mort@procial.tchncs.de]

@ainmosni@social.ainmosni.eu @Natasha_Jay@tech.lgbt
Digital references are nice if there are links or if you can have multiple tabs. But on eBook readers, setting a bookmark, flip through the pages, and jump back to bookmark is quite annoying.

[ratel@mastodon.social]

@Natasha_Jay Context matters. People call "real" those books they have in mind when they say things like "I love books" or "I'm not much into books". The real / not real distinction is an awkward attempt at making more explicit what people have in mind when talking about "books". I'm a cartoonist. I don't "draw books". The object is a book (be it in paper or pdf) no doubt, BUT we don't draw / read / write objects, we draw / read / write stories, comics, recipes, articles, essays, etc.

[jetlagjen@gts.phillipsuk.org]

@MatthewNewell @ainmosni @Natasha_Jay I do both simultaneously.

I read ebooks and have it tts at the same time. It works for me and my long covid brain fog. The sound and visual highlighting of the sentence it's on help me focus. The words on the page help me add the tone and nuance tts can't manage. It's quite intense, though n't do it much.

[mkj@social.mkj.earth]

@Natasha_Jay Also the blank spiral-bound notebook that I can fill with MY OWN story if I want to!

[schmofu@chaos.social]

@lobingera @Natasha_Jay Trickquestion: Is this an audiobook?

[antoinechambertloir@mathstodon.xyz]

@Natasha_Jay Nah, *this* is the Real book.

[ratsnakegames@mastodon.social]

@Natasha_Jay @lobingera does it have an audiobook version, though?

[ratsnakegames@mastodon.social]

@Natasha_Jay @lobingera Also, followup question: are fake books real books?