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@mario_angst_sci @glyph Even though it's been over ten years now since my last day at Mozilla, I still get irritated whenever salaries are brought up like this.
As just a developer (not an executive), after Mozilla I literally doubled my salary overnight by accepting a job with an ordinary for-profit company. And while you didn't mean it this way, what it feels like when a lot of people complain about Mozilla people getting paid is "you should have been happy to be significantly underpaid during some of your prime earning years, because you were working on an Important Societal Mission and that's more important than money".
And I extend that to discussions of executive pay. Demanding that people be underpaid relative to peers "for the misson" will always bother me.
Or more bluntly: if someone thinks working on important things has to involve being paid less (or even completely unpaid, as is too often the case with open source), I invite them to be the one who does it.
@ubernostrum @mario_angst_sci I feel the same way although in the case of the executives, the fact that they are so visibly and aggressively useless in recent years makes it hard to get too mad at people who feel the dissonance there. But "buffoonish mediocrities being paid nonsense disproportionate rates as executives" is of course not particularly a Mozilla-specific issue, as we head into 2026
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@ubernostrum @mario_angst_sci I feel the same way although in the case of the executives, the fact that they are so visibly and aggressively useless in recent years makes it hard to get too mad at people who feel the dissonance there. But "buffoonish mediocrities being paid nonsense disproportionate rates as executives" is of course not particularly a Mozilla-specific issue, as we head into 2026
@glyph @mario_angst_sci I generally avoid getting into arguments about specific executives or policies or whatever. I just think that people who work on societal good should actually be rewarded for doing so, and as far as I'm aware Mozilla exec salaries are still on the low end compared to other household-name tech companies.
And I understand it's a difficult problem: other companies can make huge stock grants to avoid needing to actually pay out hard cash, and Mozilla does not have that option. But I also know what I was making when I worked there, and what my peers at not-even-Big-Tech companies were making, and it really does get to me.
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@glyph I stopped using Firefox when they became an adtech company. Then they became an AI company and did I feel smug.
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@glyph I haven’t dug too deep into the individual bugs yet but Firefox now gives me more grief at work than Safari and that’s saying something.
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@glyph later, a new Mind is born which names itself Even Less Gravitas Than An LLM
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@glyph later, a new Mind is born which names itself Even Less Gravitas Than An LLM
@bitprophet @glyph LCU L'il Language Muddle
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@glyph You just made me want to read Excession. So far the only Culture novel I've read all the way through is The Player of Games. (I read part of Consider Phlebas roughly 12 years ago, but lost interest about halfway through.)
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@glyph You just made me want to read Excession. So far the only Culture novel I've read all the way through is The Player of Games. (I read part of Consider Phlebas roughly 12 years ago, but lost interest about halfway through.)
@matt they’re all surprisingly different and so it’s hard to have a scalar ranking but I think Excession might be my favorite?
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@matt they’re all surprisingly different and so it’s hard to have a scalar ranking but I think Excession might be my favorite?
@matt be aware that "but backwards" is doing a *ton* of heavy lifting here, this is a joke intended for those who have already read it :)
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@glyph this is 17776 inventing hyper football again
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@glyph YEEEAHHHHH
fwiw i try ty every six months and i find it to be neither faster, more more comprehensive, nor more correct. It’s almost as bad as pyre.
Even ruff seems to have stalled, like
DOC linting is still experimentalAm I paranoid? Is the upcoming AI implosion going to suck in any Python package with a Rust backend?
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@glyph :golfclap:
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@ubernostrum @glyph ehm… sorry to rain on your parade pun, but the prime numbers guy was Eratosthenes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes – Demosthenes was famous for his speeches, not for mathematics.
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@glyph There are even more layers!
My wife is a union Carpenter. Her main work for the last few years has been on teams of highly skilled construction workers building and rebuilding clean rooms to house the machines that are involved in chip making. Now she has a job building a new facility for a company that makes the machines - a project that takes hundreds of people (not to make the machines, just to construct the new facility).
Yup, it's turtles all the way down.
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@glyph Worth noting - these machines also depend on some rather recent physics to even be plausible. So, there's also a layer of physics, material science, etc. academics at mostly universities, scattered across the world, mostly funded by public spending on sciences, to even get to the point the engineers could try to build something that works at all on this scale.
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@stefano Close one. Glad you made! It had rear traction, right? A bugger to regain control if traction gets lost.
It's a bit like a certain subtle sound I'll never forget. A very large wood construction- and timber market center right before my window of my childrens bedroom completely went up into flames in the middle of the dead night when I was young.
Much later, when my wife and me were living together one night I woke up by that subtle sound again and knew right away something big lit up. It was the bikeshed of our neigbours. We were able to call the FD and alerted the neighbours, who were still asleep at that point, to get out.🤷♀️
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@robhardware excellent point Rob. I also feel that vanity metrics play a lot into it too... they are reluctant to leave behind a platform - and rebuild from scratch in a new place - if they had accumulated a lot of followers over the years.
IMHO it's all about optics and ego - even if X has armies of bots and engagement has plummeted for real users... when will they see the light?
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Ieri su Radio Popolare è andata in onda una chiacchierata con me.
Mi piace Radio Pop <3
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La logica dei cartoni
Il cerotto sul vestito
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@elena @404mediaco @Em0nM4stodon Absolutely agree. I imagine there are quite a few politicians who instinctively feel they should be off X being advised by their political parties comms teams that they are losing a huge advertising opportunity, especially during elections, if they leave, and that they would be at a disadvantage to their opponents. Until the stigma of using X outweighs the electoral cost, I'm just not sure how much change we'll see.
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@macfranc @lauramassera @eticadigitale beh, attenzione perché la Apple deve assolutamente garantire (quasi per contratto) ai suoi clienti la privacy e la protezione dei loro dati. Tanto da avvisare loro stessi diversi clienti che nemmeno si erano accorti di aver subito intrusioni e controlli attivi sui propri dispositivi offrendo persino assistenza legale. Difendono semplicemente il loro "feudo" dando protezione (finché conviene) ai loro protetti che continuano semplicemente a consumare gadget e giochini digitali. Della libertà e della privacy in sé non gliene importa nulla a nessuno, né a chi si lascia possedere né tantomeno alle grandi aziende come Apple.
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Lavoratore muore per il freddo nei cantieri delle olimpiadi a cortina. “lo specchio del lavoro tossico e nocivo dei grandi eventi”
@anarchia
È morto per il freddo all’età di 55 anni Pietro Zantonini, originario di Brindisi, durante un turno di vigilanza notturna nel cantiere delle olimpiadi Milano-Cortina.
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@lauramassera Hai assolutamente ragione, ma diciamo anche che nel 2025 è impossibile non riconoscere che la malvagità antisociale è il tratto distintivo di quelle Big Tech che spesso si presentavano eticamente candide.
L'unica eccezione è probabilmente quella di Apple che effettivamente ha deciso, sia anche solo per questioni di marketing e narrativa aziendale, di opporsi alle nuove tendenze del cattivismo trumpiano
