#kde is doing this real cool thing where if I hover the mouse over scribus or krita, the cursor shrinks.
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@aeva the other thing is wayland (and X) did it all wrong architecturally. If you really want to reimagine the display stack make the *app* the server.
By default when launched it'll send some ipc request for the local session client to connect to it.
But you can also port forward to it over ssh or whatever to get first class app remoting, including multiple concurrent seats connected to one app server at once. If the last connection drops the app simply becomes headless until the next time a client reattaches to it.
Good luck getting app devs on board with *that* model though.
@azonenberg we could do that with X11 back in the day though
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oh my god it's fucking wayland of course it's wayland OH MY GOD YOU PEOPLE SAID KDE WAS THE GOOD WAYLAND YOU FUCKING LIARS
https://blogs.kde.org/2024/10/09/cursor-size-problems-in-wayland-explained/
@aeva what I hate the most is that they're right. KDE is the good wayland, which says a lot about the other wayland clients 💀
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@aeva what I hate the most is that they're right. KDE is the good wayland, which says a lot about the other wayland clients 💀
@sky gnome doesn't have the cursor shrinking problem
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@aeva but it's wayland, so i'm sure it has a million other unexplainable problems anyway
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@aeva but it's wayland, so i'm sure it has a million other unexplainable problems anyway
@sky I'm more concerned about the very real problem that I can't find a fix for and makes me want to throw my laptop at you than some hypothetical but nevertheless plausible problems that exist in a thing I'm not using right now. Please take the tribalism somewhere else.
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if i had enough money that i didn't have to work a real job i absolutely am in the vulnerable state of mind that would think doing a hard break away from both x11 and wayland is somehow a good idea, but since i have a mortgage and a painful connective tissue disorder i am somewhat forced to value my own time, so i think i'm going to just paint tonight instead
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everyone who told me to switch to KDE because wayland is good actually you just have to use the good wayland which is KDE and not gnome? i feel betrayed, and also i now have significant doubts about your attention to detail and general observational skills
@aeva I don’t use Krita and haven’t observed this in other apps. Otherwise I’d definitely have issued the caveat.
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@aeva I don’t use Krita and haven’t observed this in other apps. Otherwise I’d definitely have issued the caveat.
@photex scribus also has the same problem
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oh my god it's fucking wayland of course it's wayland OH MY GOD YOU PEOPLE SAID KDE WAS THE GOOD WAYLAND YOU FUCKING LIARS
https://blogs.kde.org/2024/10/09/cursor-size-problems-in-wayland-explained/
@aeva we regret to inform you that it is always Wayland
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@aeva we regret to inform you that it is always Wayland
@tess yes, and that is what i expected, but i really don't appreciate people lying to me to get me to join Their Team
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if i had enough money that i didn't have to work a real job i absolutely am in the vulnerable state of mind that would think doing a hard break away from both x11 and wayland is somehow a good idea, but since i have a mortgage and a painful connective tissue disorder i am somewhat forced to value my own time, so i think i'm going to just paint tonight instead
@aeva arcan-fe exists, if you really want to go fancy
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i really should keep a list or something of all the irritating foibles of software i use regularly, because i'm not exactly sure where KDE currently sits relative to gnome in "problems solved" vs "problems created" ratio
@aeva To be fair I had the opposite problem in Gnome where cursors grew over some windows. Turned out there were two cursor settings (normal and legacy or something) and I had different cursors packs set for the two.
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@aeva I should have said “the other apps I use regularly” which is an admittedly rather short list I guess.
Anyway. Fucking Wayland. I hate it so much. Why has this happened to us? What couldn’t be fixed in X11?
Just yesterday I was ssh’d into a machine and realized that I can no longer run a GUI with X forwarding like was the norm since 1996.
I wish everyone today could experience what was just bog standard on Sun and Sgi workstations.
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if i had enough money that i didn't have to work a real job i absolutely am in the vulnerable state of mind that would think doing a hard break away from both x11 and wayland is somehow a good idea, but since i have a mortgage and a painful connective tissue disorder i am somewhat forced to value my own time, so i think i'm going to just paint tonight instead
@aeva i think this sometimes too, but then you end up with three incompatible apis to target as an application developer :(
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everyone who told me to switch to KDE because wayland is good actually you just have to use the good wayland which is KDE and not gnome? i feel betrayed, and also i now have significant doubts about your attention to detail and general observational skills
@aeva edit: oh i read through the issues and posts and now i see... it's just that their fixes only works if you use the default themes and default cursor sizes (and a relatively recent gnome, and a relatively recent kde). otherwise it's back to the wild west. xd hurray
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@aeva I should have said “the other apps I use regularly” which is an admittedly rather short list I guess.
Anyway. Fucking Wayland. I hate it so much. Why has this happened to us? What couldn’t be fixed in X11?
Just yesterday I was ssh’d into a machine and realized that I can no longer run a GUI with X forwarding like was the norm since 1996.
I wish everyone today could experience what was just bog standard on Sun and Sgi workstations.
@photex wayland is such a painful step backward ;_;
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@aeva edit: oh i read through the issues and posts and now i see... it's just that their fixes only works if you use the default themes and default cursor sizes (and a relatively recent gnome, and a relatively recent kde). otherwise it's back to the wild west. xd hurray
@dotstdy what's really great is their fix doesn't even work. switching back to the default cursor still has the problem
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@aeva i think this sometimes too, but then you end up with three incompatible apis to target as an application developer :(
@dotstdy it is one part solution and two parts vindictive nonsense
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Gli ultimi otto messaggi ricevuti dalla Federazione
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@Uilebheist fun fact, “proof of work”, the principle behind most cryptocoins, was originally developed as an antispam feature.
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@ro non esiste nessuna coalizione che promuove la piazze ...
Le piazze si promuovono da sole.
La Sinistra è morta con Berlinguer, e la Schlein differisce dalla Meloni solo per l'accento yankee ...
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Can we have a tax on spam too? Something like 1000 € per message sent will do. Thanks.
And on advertising on websites while we are there.
"Saint-Germain-Laprade taxes advertising panels to combat visual pollution"
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Questa persona è il nuovo #Nobel per la #pace
María Corina Machado - Wikipedia
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Paesi che un tempo erano liberi stanno introducendo misure come l'identità digitale e la scansione di massa dei messaggi privati. Su perseguitano i Cittadini se osano criticare i politicanti in Rete. Il Regno Unito si imprigionano persone per tweet. La Francia persegue penalmente chi difende la libertà e la privacy. La nostra generazione rischia di passare alla storia come l'ultima ad aver la avuto libertà.
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@quarkrotto adolf&benito festeggeranno!?🤐
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@lizzard do you need the exciting action edition of routines
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Whyyyy is it so tedious and boring every day to have to get up out of bed and take my meds and brush my teeth etc boring boring boring!!! I object
